Here's my take on the game - what do you guys think?

That Guy · 09-13-2004, 04:03 AM

oh yeah, the ravens are a great offense... for the other team. Those picks helped give clevland the game. I got curtis is 2 leagues (went low cause 1300yds but only 2 tds last year), so i'm happy to see him shred the bengals. jamal on the other hand is killing me

... both daunte and mcnabb are going to get their owners like 35+ points this week lol.

AnonEmouse · 09-13-2004, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hogskin

Anon,

You totally lost me with your OL and RB analysis, so I did not bother reading any farther. To make negative comments about the running game that netted 148 yards for Portis alone (more TOTAL rushing yards), shows me your expectations were higher than any team could live up to - especially against a quality defense like this one.

I gave them both 8/10? Not bad first game! My criticism is that the OL wasn't consistent. The 2nd and 3rd qtrs were weak, and they didn't pick it up again until the 4th. If we played 4 qtrs like we played 1 & 4, we'd have had over 200 yds rushing. I'm not complaining, merely pointing out that there's still a bit of work to do.

As for the backs, Portis too kind of went to sleep in the 2nd. He looked more lively in the 3rd, but the holes weren't there because the Buccs stepped it up and the OL didn't adjust quick enough. The adjustments in the 4th allowed him to pick it up again a little. Betts was fine in relief, and that juking run he made for the 1st down was excellent. Like I said 8/10.

If we get 9/10 from both OL and backs next week, expect the Giants to get run over like a 200mph bulldozer hit them.

MTK · 09-13-2004, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by EEich

I agree that he will be a decent game manager for the Skins... but I don't think he will be able to step up and win a game for them if they need him to. I think Ramsey has the potential to be a game winner and I wouldn't be surprised if he got a few extra snaps with the first team this week.

It's still too early to write off Brunell as a guy who can't make big plays for us. As he gets more comfortable working in this offense and with the WR's he's only going to improve.

jbcjr14 · 09-13-2004, 09:52 AM

Folks, we better fix the special teams!!!! If we don't, it will cost us at least 1 game this year!!!!

JG said, he will take a look at the film and already knew they have a problem. Imagine they will work hard on that this week.

bridaman51 · 09-13-2004, 10:29 AM

yeah the Special Teams almost killed us, but again the defense bailed us out. Also the QB center exchange needs a good looking at. But I would not right Brunell off, He showed veteran leadership yesterday and kept that offense together, he showed some durability to he got knocked down a few times but popped right up (of course with the OL help). I think he will chuck it deep like he did with Jimmy Smith in Jax, give him some time he will find Coles deep.

That Guy · 09-13-2004, 11:19 AM

yeah ST was awful, so were the center exchanges... and the QB/WR chemistry and run blocking need some work... playbooks a little super-conservative (on offense) too right now.

as long as we don't doze off during the gints game, we have plenty of time to rev up our weak spots.

hogwatcher · 09-13-2004, 12:03 PM

Great game!
I agree with all the positives already mentioned, but one thing I'd like to see is more plays running Portis outside the tackles, rather than up the middle, using that awesome mobility of his.

bridaman51 · 09-13-2004, 12:56 PM

How many times did we see the counter tray yesterday? I dont remember many. I would like to see that reverse we saw during the Atlanta game also.

That Guy · 09-13-2004, 01:39 PM

yeah, he does a lot better on screens and running around the corner...

CrazyCanuck · 09-13-2004, 01:56 PM

My comments:

- Seeing Gibbs back on the sideline is really a dream come true. Always calm, always in control, always planning. Unlike Spurrier...

- Defense looked great. I love all the different blitz packages we brought. It was impossible to tell who was coming on any given play. Great job by G.Williams!

- Would like to see Taylor eventually claim Bowen's role as the blitzing safety. I'll never forget what Roy Williams did to us last year, and I think Taylor could cause similar havoc. Great job by Bowen though, he looked great.

- The offense was extremely conservative (Gibbs trademark), but I would like to see a few more shots downfield. Coles is too good and should be getting more touches. I think Gardner can have a huge year if he holds onto the ball. Gibbs loves to use the "possession receiver" (see Art Monk) and Gardner fits the mold perfectly.

- Great display by Portis. His speed is awesome and he seems to be able to grind it out just as easily. Personally I'd like to see Betts get more carries to take some of the load of Portis. Especially on those drives where Gibbs is just grinding clock and running between the tackles. No need for Portis to get beat up when we're grinding for 2-3 yards.

- Special teams were a little shaky especially on coverage. Also, I wasn't too impressed with Morton back there, he seemed a little sluggish. I would have liked to see a little more of what Gari Scott could do especially on punt returns. He seemed very quick in the preseason.

- Both lines played well. Props to the OL. It was a pleasure to see our QB upright for the whole game.

All in all a very solid performance. Great work by Gibbs, the staff, and the players. It was the first time in a while that we looked like one cohesive unit (ie a TEAM)!

GO SKINS

That Guy · 09-13-2004, 02:07 PM

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Gibbs loves to use the "possession receiver" (see Art Monk) and Gardner fits the mold perfectly.

wouldn't he need to... umm... possess the ball then? he's kinda got a history of the drops.

JWsleep · 09-13-2004, 02:08 PM

Well put, Canuck. Man, wasn't it incredible to see Gibbs out there again? Goose bump city!

And I expect we'll see more of Gibbs flash on offense as everyone gets more comfortable.

offiss · 09-13-2004, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

wouldn't he need to... umm... possess the ball then? he's kinda got a history of the drops.

Ya got that right. Gardner is like what Joey T. described last night, the little girl with the curl, she'll break your heart, but then she smiles and start's looking real good.

CrazyCanuck · 09-13-2004, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

wouldn't he need to... umm... possess the ball then? he's kinda got a history of the drops.

Agreed. That's why I said "I think Gardner can have a huge year if he holds onto the ball."

I realize that "Gardner holding the ball" is a big if.

CrazyCanuck · 09-13-2004, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JWsleep

Man, wasn't it incredible to see Gibbs out there again?

Ya, seeing Gibbs back out there is the real highlight. Everything else is just gravy.

09-13-2004, 09:52 AM	#34
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 54 Posts: 2,015	Folks, we better fix the special teams!!!! If we don't, it will cost us at least 1 game this year!!!! JG said, he will take a look at the film and already knew they have a problem. Imagine they will work hard on that this week. __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

09-13-2004, 02:08 PM	#42
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,714	Well put, Canuck. Man, wasn't it incredible to see Gibbs out there again? Goose bump city! And I expect we'll see more of Gibbs flash on offense as everyone gets more comfortable. __________________ Hail from Houston!

09-13-2004, 04:03 AM	#31
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	oh yeah, the ravens are a great offense... for the other team. Those picks helped give clevland the game. I got curtis is 2 leagues (went low cause 1300yds but only 2 tds last year), so i'm happy to see him shred the bengals. jamal on the other hand is killing me ... both daunte and mcnabb are going to get their owners like 35+ points this week lol.

09-13-2004, 10:29 AM	#35
bridaman51 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roanoke Virginia Age: 46 Posts: 335	yeah the Special Teams almost killed us, but again the defense bailed us out. Also the QB center exchange needs a good looking at. But I would not right Brunell off, He showed veteran leadership yesterday and kept that offense together, he showed some durability to he got knocked down a few times but popped right up (of course with the OL help). I think he will chuck it deep like he did with Jimmy Smith in Jax, give him some time he will find Coles deep.

09-13-2004, 11:19 AM	#36
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	yeah ST was awful, so were the center exchanges... and the QB/WR chemistry and run blocking need some work... playbooks a little super-conservative (on offense) too right now. as long as we don't doze off during the gints game, we have plenty of time to rev up our weak spots.

09-13-2004, 12:03 PM	#37
hogwatcher Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wigan, U.K. Posts: 7	Great game! I agree with all the positives already mentioned, but one thing I'd like to see is more plays running Portis outside the tackles, rather than up the middle, using that awesome mobility of his.

09-13-2004, 12:56 PM	#38
bridaman51 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roanoke Virginia Age: 46 Posts: 335	How many times did we see the counter tray yesterday? I dont remember many. I would like to see that reverse we saw during the Atlanta game also.

09-13-2004, 01:39 PM	#39
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	yeah, he does a lot better on screens and running around the corner...

09-13-2004, 01:56 PM	#40
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	My comments: - Seeing Gibbs back on the sideline is really a dream come true. Always calm, always in control, always planning. Unlike Spurrier... - Defense looked great. I love all the different blitz packages we brought. It was impossible to tell who was coming on any given play. Great job by G.Williams! - Would like to see Taylor eventually claim Bowen's role as the blitzing safety. I'll never forget what Roy Williams did to us last year, and I think Taylor could cause similar havoc. Great job by Bowen though, he looked great. - The offense was extremely conservative (Gibbs trademark), but I would like to see a few more shots downfield. Coles is too good and should be getting more touches. I think Gardner can have a huge year if he holds onto the ball. Gibbs loves to use the "possession receiver" (see Art Monk) and Gardner fits the mold perfectly. - Great display by Portis. His speed is awesome and he seems to be able to grind it out just as easily. Personally I'd like to see Betts get more carries to take some of the load of Portis. Especially on those drives where Gibbs is just grinding clock and running between the tackles. No need for Portis to get beat up when we're grinding for 2-3 yards. - Special teams were a little shaky especially on coverage. Also, I wasn't too impressed with Morton back there, he seemed a little sluggish. I would have liked to see a little more of what Gari Scott could do especially on punt returns. He seemed very quick in the preseason. - Both lines played well. Props to the OL. It was a pleasure to see our QB upright for the whole game. All in all a very solid performance. Great work by Gibbs, the staff, and the players. It was the first time in a while that we looked like one cohesive unit (ie a TEAM)! GO SKINS

Here's my take on the game - what do you guys think?

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