Dan Snyder losing respectability?

[tdSKINS1]

This gives me a headache

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Mr. Smack? Wow, nice touch

No, I wasn't pissed. I'll retract the statement because I know whenever I bash the fans here everyone gets up in arms.

Fair enough.
I do agree some of us get pissed as fans once in a while and make mistatements....certainly myself included
We are all human and have a heart for the Skins.

I agree that some of us have freaked out a bit during this process.
But I don't think the reaction is totally unfounded.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

it was gibbs who hired saunders,so i would say thats backing him,as for wiliams,yes i would have rather he hired him and see how it worked out
Has snyder got along with anybody besides gibbs?

He did hire him, but he later said he made a mistake. I have no link, I guess you'll just have to take my word for it.

I probably would have hired Williams too, though I was pretty torn on it. I don't know that he really deserved it for any reason other than he was a good lieutenant for the past four years and I knew it wasn't likely to last more than a year. But I knew that if they didn't hire him, it would cause a huge backlash. An unnecessary backlash.

It's true Snyder doesn't get along with too many people (though more than people assume), but here's the thing...neither does Williams.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

it was gibbs who hired saunders,so i would say thats backing him,as for wiliams,yes i would have rather he hired him and see how it worked out
Has snyder got along with anybody besides gibbs?

I tend to agree with your points.

Truth is....there wasn't anyone great available for the HC that really outshined GW...so why create the turmoil voluntarily?
The team loved him, the fans were ready to root for him to turn over a new leaf...he had all the motivation to save face for his past record.
Who give a crap on working relationship...this is about success...Wins and Losses.
At least give the guy 2 years....after all.
I though the coaching staff that Snyder put together was ingenious!
1 head coach and 2 head coaches in the waiting once he retires....make the choice between the 2!

He fired them both.....that is the problem

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I probably would have hired Williams too, though I was pretty torn on it.

Your statement says it all.
I agree....

The issue is many of the fans thought a tie should go to the existing coach because of massive support and continuity would create a better environment for future success.

Now, there is only a single choice and it is Fassell who many should have lost head to head with Williams.

But of course, no matter the decision, we must all support our team, regardless of whether we think it is a mistake or not

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by saden1

You've got to ask yourself "Would I work for Snyder?"

Hell, if I were Fassel I would pull out too. I'm surprised he is still around seeing how he is just a bootycall.

Where else is gonna get an offer? If he sticks with the Skins he gets a huge payday. Suck it up for a year and make a shit ton of money.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Where else is gonna get an offer? If he sticks with the Skins he gets a huge payday. Suck it up for a year and make a shit ton of money.

He seems desperate...I don't like desperate people.

[saden1]

No need to defend Snyder, his actions speak for themselves. Just because you have enough money to buy an NFL team doesn't mean you have the competency required to run an NFL team.

I may not know what's going on behind the scenes but I do know this, what Snyder is doing feels and seems wrong. As with all things time will tell.

[Luxorreb]

Ok.
Snyder has a plan...

Doesn't a Head Coach usually factor into the plan? It's been officially 1 month with NO coach. I'm not trying to bash anyone on their views, I'm just not understanding the 'plan' idea. The NFL is a 12 month job for a head coach. We're down 1. And I'd be shocked if anyone was truly excited about Fassel, Meeks or Mooch. Reminds me of the last few elections.... Pick the best of the worst. As someone already mentioned the best coaching choices will forever be leary of coming to Washington as long as Cerrato and Snyder run the team.

Not a hater. Just telling it like it is.
HTTR.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I probably would have hired Williams too, though I was pretty torn on it. I don't know that he really deserved it for any reason other than he was a good lieutenant for the past four years and I knew it wasn't likely to last more than a year. But I knew that if they didn't hire him, it would cause a huge backlash. An unnecessary backlash.

It's true Snyder doesn't get along with too many people (though more than people assume), but here's the thing...neither does Williams.

As for Williams deserving it: He HAD been a good lieutenant. He did a fine job with the resources at hand. More importantly, last year, after a horrible prior year, Williams was willing to come in and, essentially, tear up the prior year's play book, stop forcing a system that wasn't necessarily suited to his players, and adapt so that, rather than his brilliance, the players abilities shined through. In other words, Williams as coach showed some essential growth by adapting to his players rather than having his players adapt (totally) to him. As a result, his coaching improved.

As for Snyder and William not getting along with people, or with each other: IMO, Snyder has NOT shown this ability to subordinate his will. Marty may have gutted the team and lost five, he then turned the team around and made a solid run. Even though Marty was turning things around from camp Norv, Snyder, in your words, "was uncomfortable". Why? B/c Marty was running the show, not Little Danny. Now, again, faced with a coach who had shown the ability to adapt to his talent and who had the backing of his players - Danny essentially is unable to subordinate his will to that of the "football man".

Bottom line - Danny, as Jerry Jones and Al Davis, wants to run the show. It's his property and he's the one who payed millions for it, but, until he has success, he will catch hell.

Part of the problem with his obsession to succeed is that it appears to be a need to succeed his way. "His way" has not been a success, and, because of its lack of success, he has little credibility w/ fans or the national press when continues to pursue it.

B/c I am a fan, I hope he succeeds - not b/c I wish any particular goodwill to Little Danny, but b/c I am sick of my team being mediocre.

[#56fanatic]

I have been a huge backer of snyder in the regards that he wants to win and spends tons of money trying(good or bad) But, this latest debacle of a coaching search makes it difficult to defend. GW had the backing of the players, these players loved GW. We saw for 4 years how these guys didn't lay down, or throw in the towel especially when we were losing badly those two years. I think it damages the moral of the players when the owner doesn't listen to the hearts of his players or common sense for that matter. The reason GW isn't here is because he wanted some control, and we will all have to face it, that with Dan and Vinny no coach of any quality will take this job if he cant have some control. Fassell, Mariucci,Meeks all want to be head coaches and will settle for about anything to get back in the game. The other guys Cowher, Spags, Mora, Carroll know they can not work under those rules and pulled out, or never even concidered the job. Dan Snyder has taken the easiest decision he would have ever had and turned it into a 3 ring circus and again has us as the laughing stock of the NFL. We have let a great person, and coach walk out the door when all we had to do was move him into the position and we could have kept going in the same direction we were going in. I dont understand the impatience of this front office, never wanting to build on success. they want to try and make radical changes to push us over the top, but those changes have done nothing but make us take a few steps back the years after we take 1 step forward.
I am just tired of all the BS, hire someone and lets get on with it. We are all ready behind 31 other teams in the NFL as far as getting ready for the draft. Oh wait, maybe not. I am sure Danny and Vinny all ready have the kid they want to draft, they just have to tell fassell who they are drafting.
what a joke this organization has become

[MTK]

So... Mora Jr. and Spagnoulo decided to stick with their own teams, Cowher is taking a 2 year hiatus, Carroll wasn't coming back without control, and all of a sudden this is a devalued HC job?? Sorry JLC, thanks for stirring the pot but I'm not buying.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So... Mora Jr. and Spagnoulo decided to stick with their own teams, Cowher is taking a 2 year hiatus, Carroll wasn't coming back without control, and all of a sudden this is a devalued HC job?? Sorry JLC, thanks for stirring the pot but I'm not buying.

I believe I heard Mora was offerred the job? and chose not to take it. It could have certainly been because he wanted to stay in Seattle giving the fact he will be coach next year. Spags wouldn't have been able to get his people, which I think was a huge factor in him resigning with NY. with Cowher, I truly believe he wasn't taking the job because of the front office structure and fact he wouldn't have control of personel or his staff. Money always talks, his hiatus would be only temporary if Danny offerred enough money.

[vavajan]

ABSOLUTELY, the only person he should hire now and bring back some luster of burgandy and gold is RUSS GRIMM

[MTK]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I believe I heard Mora was offerred the job? and chose not to take it. It could have certainly been because he wanted to stay in Seattle giving the fact he will be coach next year. Spags wouldn't have been able to get his people, which I think was a huge factor in him resigning with NY. with Cowher, I truly believe he wasn't taking the job because of the front office structure and fact he wouldn't have control of personel or his staff. Money always talks, his hiatus would be only temporary if Danny offerred enough money.

I don't think there was ever any concrete evidence of Mora Jr. being offered the job. Just rumors and speculation.

Spags came into a similar situation in NY, he came in as the DC with his assistants already in place and it wasn't an issue for him then.