Why are we giving Gibbs a pass?

4mrusmc · 04-15-2007, 08:07 PM

I see that some people have a need to bash me for bringing this thread up. That's fine, and I expect that. Now let me restate that I am appreciative of Gibbs's accomplishments. But, this is his fourth year, and you have to ask yourself will we be so forgiving this year if we go 5-11 again? I'm all for hope and optimism, but again I would like to see a well executed plan put in place. As far as the injuries go, that is what happens in the NFL. I'm just tired of the excuses.

GMScud · 04-15-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 4mrusmc

I see that some people have a need to bash me for bringing this thread up. That's fine, and I expect that. Now let me restate that I am appreciative of Gibbs's accomplishments. But, this is his fourth year, and you have to ask yourself will we be so forgiving this year if we go 5-11 again? I'm all for hope and optimism, but again I would like to see a well executed plan put in place. As far as the injuries go, that is what happens in the NFL. I'm just tired of the excuses.

I agree for the most part. Just because he is Joe Gibbs doesn't mean we need to be constant apologists or sycophants. Fortunately Gibbs is critical of himself as well, and we can always count on the fact that he will give 100% at all times to get better. But 21-27 in the regular season over three years doesn't exactly set the league on fire. Of course he should be scrutinized.

For those who jump down your throat as soon as you criticize Gibbs, just remember Daseal's signature line: "Apparently not having unrelenting optimism means you're not a fan."

That always make me laugh. Sometimes you have to be a skeptic.

SmootSmack · 04-15-2007, 08:38 PM

4mrusmc, I've added the "we" you requested to the thread title. While I don't agree with this thread, I will vociferously defend your right to post it...or something along those lines.

Seriously though, as others have mentioned, this has been brought up before and my feeling is a) even he doesn't give himself a free pass, but b) he does deserve some benefit of the doubt for what he's brought to the Redskins and the NFL.

He's a big reason I'm a fan. Without Gibbs there is no SmootSmack. And then we'd all be sad

Skinny Tee · 04-15-2007, 08:38 PM

Gibbs isn't just here for the coaching, he is here to manage this team. If you don't think he is a good coach he is at the very least a good manager of the team. His other serviceable function is keeping Synder's hands off the roster. Name another coach who could command that kind of respect from Synder to handle such a task.

Gibb's influence on the team's management is another major part of why his efforts should not be questioned. He's not just coaching, he's managing and making sure that Synder doesn't have complete control of the roster.

So I appreciate your post but humbly decline to view things from your overly negative vantage point. Also don't forget...If you're going to San Fransisco, make sure you wear some flowers in your hair.

beatdallas · 04-15-2007, 08:40 PM

Everyone is disappointed right now.

The only thing that we can do as fans is hang in there and hope for better days.

wolfeskins · 04-15-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Without Gibbs there is no SmootSmack. And then we'd all be sad

not all of us

SmootSmack · 04-15-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

not all of us

You'd be angry? I understand, people deal with bad news in different ways

4mrusmc · 04-15-2007, 09:06 PM

Thanks Smooty for the edit help. Hey Tee the only person that could keep Snyder somewhat in check IS Gibbs. Just think what we would do as fans if Gibbs came out and said "I tried to lead this team back to the promise land, but the owner was against my decisions, so there for I quit". Snyder would probably be stoned and burned at Redskin Park. I think our secondary will be fine, but I would like to know what is our long term plan is for the D-line, and our line backers. Too much rumor, and speculation.

skinsfan_nn · 04-15-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

I agree with this post 100 percent. We should stop giving Gibbs a pass. We should all start threads rehashing his specific failures last season, so as to raise awareness. Only by doing that can we solve the problem.

It's time the Warpath stopped coddling Gibbs. It's time brave posters took this old man on. Hey Gibbs, I know you are reading this right now. The free ride is over, now you are going to have to answer to this website.

Raise awareness? I think everyone on this site is in tune with what is going on with the SKINS and what Coach Gibbs has or has not done!

I don't know what dream land your living in, but there is no free ride it's called a 5 year deal! ....or is that what you called it in 05 , when Coach Gibbs had us back in the playoffs?

Get with it, you don't have to relive the same thread over and over............. or I guess you can until we are back in the playoffs again with a healthy and greatly improved team.

djnemo65 · 04-15-2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Raise awareness? I think everyone on this site is in tune with what is going on with the SKINS and what Coach Gibbs has or has not done!

I don't know what dream land your living in, but there is no free ride it's called a 5 year deal! ....or is that what you called it in 05 , when Coach Gibbs had us back in the playoffs?

Get with it, you don't have to relive the same thread over and over............. or I guess you can until we are back in the playoffs again with a healthy and greatly improved team.

I see that you are 42 so I will forgive you for not knowing I was kidding, since sarcasm hadn't been invented yet when you were growing up. But I think the lesson here is to chill out, as us young people say.

hooskins · 04-15-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

I see that you are 42 so I will forgive you for not knowing I was kidding, since sarcasm hadn't been invented yet when you were growing up. But I think the lesson here is to chill out, as us young people say.

hahahaaa

hooskins · 04-15-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

I don't know what dream land your living in, but there is no free ride it's called a 5 year deal! ....or is that what you called it in 05 , when Coach Gibbs had us back in the playoffs?

sounds like soviet russia.

In Soviet Russia sarcasm invent YOU!

skinsfan_nn · 04-15-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

I see that you are 42 so I will forgive you for not knowing I was kidding, since sarcasm hadn't been invented yet when you were growing up. But I think the lesson here is to chill out, as us young people say.

Alright JR. on the other side of the planet, I thought for a sec you were from Mars? But I see your just in Japan.......

Sarcasm hasn't been around all that long......it used to be smart A**
I'm with ya, just wanted to state the facts as I see them. Damn shame I didn't catch your sarcasm, see Joe is the man. I knew you would see the light. Joe's also proubally to busy tonight to catch this post, maybe next time?

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 04-15-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

I see that you are 42 so I will forgive you for not knowing I was kidding, since sarcasm hadn't been invented yet when you were growing up. But I think the lesson here is to chill out, as us young people say.

lol

skinsguy · 04-15-2007, 09:45 PM

Gibbs had been away from the NFL for how long? He's trying to rebuild the organization, not just coach. That takes time, and I will gladly give him the full 5 years of his contract to get this team back into contention. He has done everything that a lot of fans have screamed for.. putting in Campbell, getting an offensive coordinator, getting this team back into the playoffs in his second year...it takes time to build a solid team and Gibbs, as smart as he is, is still trying to figure it out. I'd rather it be him doing it than some unproven coach.

04-15-2007, 08:07 PM	#31
4mrusmc Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 55 Posts: 559	Re: Why are giving Gibbs a pass? I see that some people have a need to bash me for bringing this thread up. That's fine, and I expect that. Now let me restate that I am appreciative of Gibbs's accomplishments. But, this is his fourth year, and you have to ask yourself will we be so forgiving this year if we go 5-11 again? I'm all for hope and optimism, but again I would like to see a well executed plan put in place. As far as the injuries go, that is what happens in the NFL. I'm just tired of the excuses.

04-15-2007, 08:38 PM	#33
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Why are we giving Gibbs a pass? 4mrusmc, I've added the "we" you requested to the thread title. While I don't agree with this thread, I will vociferously defend your right to post it...or something along those lines. Seriously though, as others have mentioned, this has been brought up before and my feeling is a) even he doesn't give himself a free pass, but b) he does deserve some benefit of the doubt for what he's brought to the Redskins and the NFL. He's a big reason I'm a fan. Without Gibbs there is no SmootSmack. And then we'd all be sad __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

04-15-2007, 08:38 PM	#34
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Re: Why are we giving Gibbs a pass? Gibbs isn't just here for the coaching, he is here to manage this team. If you don't think he is a good coach he is at the very least a good manager of the team. His other serviceable function is keeping Synder's hands off the roster. Name another coach who could command that kind of respect from Synder to handle such a task. Gibb's influence on the team's management is another major part of why his efforts should not be questioned. He's not just coaching, he's managing and making sure that Synder doesn't have complete control of the roster. So I appreciate your post but humbly decline to view things from your overly negative vantage point. Also don't forget...If you're going to San Fransisco, make sure you wear some flowers in your hair.

04-15-2007, 08:40 PM	#35
beatdallas Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 33	Re: Why are we giving Gibbs a pass? Everyone is disappointed right now. The only thing that we can do as fans is hang in there and hope for better days.

04-15-2007, 09:06 PM	#38
4mrusmc Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 55 Posts: 559	Re: Why are we giving Gibbs a pass? Thanks Smooty for the edit help. Hey Tee the only person that could keep Snyder somewhat in check IS Gibbs. Just think what we would do as fans if Gibbs came out and said "I tried to lead this team back to the promise land, but the owner was against my decisions, so there for I quit". Snyder would probably be stoned and burned at Redskin Park. I think our secondary will be fine, but I would like to know what is our long term plan is for the D-line, and our line backers. Too much rumor, and speculation.

04-15-2007, 09:45 PM	#45
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Why are we giving Gibbs a pass? Gibbs had been away from the NFL for how long? He's trying to rebuild the organization, not just coach. That takes time, and I will gladly give him the full 5 years of his contract to get this team back into contention. He has done everything that a lot of fans have screamed for.. putting in Campbell, getting an offensive coordinator, getting this team back into the playoffs in his second year...it takes time to build a solid team and Gibbs, as smart as he is, is still trying to figure it out. I'd rather it be him doing it than some unproven coach. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

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