What would you trade for secondary help?

JWsleep · 10-07-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RiggoRules

Uhm, it is week 5 people. You don't just go down to Walmart and pick up a quality CB and insert him into the lineup -- no matter the price.

Adapting to the GW defense is not an instant process for anyone. League rules not withstanding, the deadline for adding personnel to improve the defense has long since passed.

I agree with this. It takes too long to get up to speed, and the good players just aren't going to be available, most likely (Clark, for instance). GW and co. can make the guys we have play better, and that's our best hope right now. Remember, no one had heard of Clark before GW got him.

Interestingly, the loss of Preileau (sp) hurt more than I thought it would. We have no option but to leave AA out in passing downs and that hurts. But give it some time. And I do think SS will be back in action this year--that will help everything back there.

budw38 · 10-07-2006, 09:27 PM

The Steelers are not going to trade clark to us . Besides , no way Dan and Vinny make that trade , then bench the highest paid safety in football ; and admit that they f'd up . Maybe trade Duckett for a corner , but I would not bet on a team trading a good cover corner now . I just hope if our db's improve soon ! And if we still have problems covering throughout the season , someone tell Vinny ,,, NOT to go out and bring in some f/a bum of a corner and give him a 10 million dollar signing bonus

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RiggoRules · 10-07-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

CBs can play man without learning a system. CBs could also probably learn the defense in time for the end of the season and the playoffs. Not in time to help us replace Springs, but in time to help us win the Super Bowl.

Sheriff, I usually agree with you and have much respect for what you do around here. But I've got to disagree with your analysis on a few points....

1. In the GW defense, the CB is required to do much more than go man up. In addition, any CB who falls into the category of being a solid cover corner is going to be impossible to purchase.

2. By time we get to the SB or playoffs, the CBs we have now will be much more up to speed than they were up to this point. They are not lacking in athletic ability.

3. The probability (but by no means certainty) is that by time we end up in the second half of the season, SS will be back on the field.

Rexi · 10-07-2006, 09:39 PM

For secondary help I would trade Derek Smith, Jeff Ulbrich, Kwame Harris, Taylor Jacobs, Sammy Davis and Chris Hetherington. Garbage...

saden1 · 10-07-2006, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rexi

For secondary help I would trade Derek Smith, Jeff Ulbrich, Kwame Harris, Taylor Jacobs, Sammy Davis and Chris Hetherington. Garbage...

Derek Smith? Is he that bad? It's amazing he stuck around this long. I know one thing for sure, we never take back what we tossed. That would make us Indian givers.

Redskin · 10-07-2006, 10:51 PM

id trade betts cuase he shows so much promise we could possible get a better corner, i kno thats horrible becuase betts is my man.

Besides i think our secoundary is looking better and the situation isnt as dire as you guys make it seem

dmek25 · 10-08-2006, 12:01 AM

sammy davis? didnt he die a couple of years ago?

4mrusmc · 10-08-2006, 12:18 PM

What needs to happen is S. Springs needs to get back on the field soon before this season is lost. I like Rumph more than Wright and the other guy we have playing corner. However Rogers has been a bit of a disapointment this year. Arch has been playing better here of late but, he still has a ways to go. As of now for what we payed for this guy we have not gotten a good return. The contract that this guy signed really scares me when S. Taylors contract is due for negotiation. Taylor is a guy we need back there handling buisness. But, all in all I think that the players we have back in the secondary will be fine. Once Springs comes back, it should give the defense a lift similar to when Portis came back. No more loses from here on out.

redduke44 · 10-08-2006, 04:16 PM

Where is darrel green,he,s gotta be better than wright.

56FAN · 10-08-2006, 08:08 PM

absolutely, been saying that the skins have rolled the dice on the secondary and the o line, the o line is fine a long as none get hurt but the secondary without springs is naked and blind. these guys are playing scared,we need another cb. but whom could we trade for ? it can't be just another scrub, we've gotten those.how many years do you guys think springs has left ? not many, time to make a move to get us a real good corner.

MightyJoeGibbs · 10-08-2006, 08:17 PM

What would you trade for secondary help?

Are you suggesting we send money to fix this b/c nothing will be done regardless???

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-08-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RiggoRules

Sheriff, I usually agree with you and have much respect for what you do around here. But I've got to disagree with your analysis on a few points....

1. In the GW defense, the CB is required to do much more than go man up. In addition, any CB who falls into the category of being a solid cover corner is going to be impossible to purchase.

2. By time we get to the SB or playoffs, the CBs we have now will be much more up to speed than they were up to this point. They are not lacking in athletic ability.

3. The probability (but by no means certainty) is that by time we end up in the second half of the season, SS will be back on the field.

All fair points. I just hope our CBs do in fact get up to speed. Thus far I am very disappointed with Rogers and I'm beginning to wonder if we will ever see Springs.

NYCSkin · 10-08-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm still willing to give guys like Rumph and Wright more time to get up to speed. Plus Rogers is still developing.

Developing into...

NYCSkin · 10-08-2006, 10:14 PM

Here's a suggestion (albeit bourbon induced) for our secondary woes. What about a player with rare athletic skills who goes against the GW defense every day in practice?

I'm thinking get Randle El ala Troy Brown for the Patriots.

Thoughts...

MTK · 10-08-2006, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCSkin

Developing into...

That's yet to be seen, and something we must stay patient with. Not every corner is Champ Bailey.

10-07-2006, 09:27 PM	#32
budw38 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,706	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? The Steelers are not going to trade clark to us . Besides , no way Dan and Vinny make that trade , then bench the highest paid safety in football ; and admit that they f'd up . Maybe trade Duckett for a corner , but I would not bet on a team trading a good cover corner now . I just hope if our db's improve soon ! And if we still have problems covering throughout the season , someone tell Vinny ,,, NOT to go out and bring in some f/a bum of a corner and give him a 10 million dollar signing bonus !

10-07-2006, 09:39 PM	#34
Rexi Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 344	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? For secondary help I would trade Derek Smith, Jeff Ulbrich, Kwame Harris, Taylor Jacobs, Sammy Davis and Chris Hetherington. Garbage... __________________ "Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein."- Joe Theismann

10-07-2006, 10:51 PM	#36
Redskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: University of South Carolina Age: 36 Posts: 577	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? id trade betts cuase he shows so much promise we could possible get a better corner, i kno thats horrible becuase betts is my man. Besides i think our secoundary is looking better and the situation isnt as dire as you guys make it seem __________________ University Of South Carolina '11 Go Cocks and Go Skins #21#RIP Sean Taylor a TRUE Redskin#21# <--Hey wheres my green approval rating?

10-08-2006, 12:01 AM	#37
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? sammy davis? didnt he die a couple of years ago? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

10-08-2006, 12:18 PM	#38
4mrusmc Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 55 Posts: 559	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? What needs to happen is S. Springs needs to get back on the field soon before this season is lost. I like Rumph more than Wright and the other guy we have playing corner. However Rogers has been a bit of a disapointment this year. Arch has been playing better here of late but, he still has a ways to go. As of now for what we payed for this guy we have not gotten a good return. The contract that this guy signed really scares me when S. Taylors contract is due for negotiation. Taylor is a guy we need back there handling buisness. But, all in all I think that the players we have back in the secondary will be fine. Once Springs comes back, it should give the defense a lift similar to when Portis came back. No more loses from here on out.

10-08-2006, 04:16 PM	#39
redduke44 Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 63	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? Where is darrel green,he,s gotta be better than wright.

10-08-2006, 08:08 PM	#40
56FAN Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MANASSAS VA Age: 62 Posts: 323	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? absolutely, been saying that the skins have rolled the dice on the secondary and the o line, the o line is fine a long as none get hurt but the secondary without springs is naked and blind. these guys are playing scared,we need another cb. but whom could we trade for ? it can't be just another scrub, we've gotten those.how many years do you guys think springs has left ? not many, time to make a move to get us a real good corner.

10-08-2006, 08:17 PM	#41
MightyJoeGibbs The Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: B-More, the backdoor for the Redskins Community Age: 45 Posts: 1,087	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? What would you trade for secondary help? Are you suggesting we send money to fix this b/c nothing will be done regardless??? __________________ Maybe in order to understand mankind we have to look at that word itself. MANKIND. Basically, it's made up of two separate words "mank"and "ind." What do these words mean? It's a mystery and that's why so is mankind. --Jack Handy Deep Thoughts

10-08-2006, 10:14 PM	#44
NYCSkin Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 53 Posts: 513	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? Here's a suggestion (albeit bourbon induced) for our secondary woes. What about a player with rare athletic skills who goes against the GW defense every day in practice? I'm thinking get Randle El ala Troy Brown for the Patriots. Thoughts...

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