Let's talk defense

VTSkins897 · 10-02-2006, 08:09 PM

yeah i'm not gonna even about the negatives until later this week.

RTerps2002 · 10-02-2006, 08:20 PM

I just hope that the fact he has been forced into the number 1 cb is the reason he has been so bad

Meast · 10-02-2006, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RTerps2002

I can't beleive no one has mentioned how poorly Carlos Rodger has played all year... He was horrible again yesturday for the 4th week.

Keep the faith, he'll continue to develop, he's learning from the best

JWsleep · 10-02-2006, 08:36 PM

OJT for Rogers. But I didn't think he looked THAT bad. He's not getting much safety help, no doubt. It's been 2 steps forward, 1 step back, IMO.

Also, Leftwhich (sp) made some nice throws. He's got a strong arm and can hit that nice 12-15 yard out. And that throw where Taylor took the guy's helmet off was right on the money.

As for ST and bad angles, it only sticks out becuase we're so used to him making those plays. He makes a lot of sticks in the run game, and that requires good angles as he comes up from the secondary. Yes, he was caught on that one TD, but that guy is a likety-split little guy.

Warning to the cowboys--ST is only going to get better. Meanwhile, the sainted Roy is only getting older...

D'BOYZ · 10-02-2006, 08:41 PM

Have you seen roy this year I know ST is getting better but roy is also getting better he's only 26 C'mon

That Guy · 10-02-2006, 08:47 PM

yeah, definately their best game. Our secondary still kinda sucks right now though. Rogers had a bad game and Taylor had a bad game (for Sean Taylor). Curry Burns probably shouldn't be on the field either. (he was being used where GW wanted to use Prioleau before injury, subbing him in on passing downs to protect archuleta from blown coverages).

dmek25 · 10-02-2006, 08:52 PM

where the heck did burns come from? he was horrible. and golston gets better and better with each week.

70Chip · 10-02-2006, 09:17 PM

I'm worried that Sean Taylor won't be able to play more than five seasons. Some guys have a few hits in a game or a highlight stick in every other game. This guy has a world shattering collision EVERY time he makes a play on the ball. It's a tremendous combination of courage and skill. He plays a game that I, as a fan, am not familiar with.

It's got to catch up with him though, right? I mean he's gotta be sore today, right? How cool would it be if he isn't.

I wanted to add a comment about Rock Cartwright as well. How smart is Gibbs? Most coaches put a speedster back there and hope they break one or two runs a year. Gibbs puts a bowling ball back there who over the course of the season will pick up maybe 300 more yards than the sprinter by overpowering people. And he got a TD against Dallas anyway.

That Guy · 10-03-2006, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

I'm worried that Sean Taylor won't be able to play more than five seasons. Some guys have a few hits in a game or a highlight stick in every other game. This guy has a world shattering collision EVERY time he makes a play on the ball. It's a tremendous combination of courage and skill. He plays a game that I, as a fan, am not familiar with.

It's got to catch up with him though, right? I mean he's gotta be sore today, right? How cool would it be if he isn't.

I wanted to add a comment about Rock Cartwright as well. How smart is Gibbs? Most coaches put a speedster back there and hope they break one or two runs a year. Gibbs puts a bowling ball back there who over the course of the season will pick up maybe 300 more yards than the sprinter by overpowering people. And he got a TD against Dallas anyway.

safeties play almost as long as CBs. initiating contact is much safer than being hit from your blind side.

RobH4413 · 10-03-2006, 03:24 AM

ST is the most fun defensive player I have ever watched....he is in on every play, whether or not he makes the tackle he is ALWAYS there.

I have to disagree about Carlos, he seems to be doing a pretty decent job as a number 1 corner being a second year player on a team with hardhitting (not coverage) safeties.

Golston is a beast, I wouldnt mind seeing him starting permenantly.

Archuletta is starting to look comfortable, and he said it helps that he was able to blitz, that it gets him into the flow of the game, and when Springs is back u better believe he'll be doing plenty of blitzing.

Wright and Rumph look better every game, I will be more then comfortable with them at nickle when Springs returns.

Andre Carter is coming into his own, dont be surprised to see him with 9 sacks at the end of the year, he is a strong physical guy, and dont forget that he has been up against some of the best olineman in the league.

D looked better, I expect them to manhandle the Giants. As long as Tiki is stifled, and we get to Manning the Gmen dont have a chance.

Redskins8588 · 10-03-2006, 04:04 AM

With Golston and Montgomery developing the way that they have ben, I think that when Joe Salavea(SP) comes back, our D will have a very good DT rotation. Keeping the big guys up front fresh will greatly help out our LB's...

That Guy · 10-03-2006, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RobH4413

Andre Carter is coming into his own, dont be surprised to see him with 9 sacks at the end of the year, he is a strong physical guy, and dont forget that he has been up against some of the best olineman in the league.

9 sacks is reasonable, but best OLinemen in the league? if by that you mean a backup OG playing LT for an injured rookie OG that was starting at LT for the texans, then okay...

skinsttw · 10-03-2006, 06:59 AM

I think we need to shut down TB early, put Eli on his back a few times, then enjoy the INT gifts that he will give us. Eli is either hot or cold, and he still has times when he plays like a rookie. We need to put some points on the board early.

10-02-2006, 08:09 PM	#31
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 41 Posts: 890	Re: Let's talk defense yeah i'm not gonna even about the negatives until later this week.

10-02-2006, 08:20 PM	#32
RTerps2002 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: FT Lauderdale Florida Age: 53 Posts: 33	Re: Let's talk defense I just hope that the fact he has been forced into the number 1 cb is the reason he has been so bad

10-02-2006, 08:36 PM	#34
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,714	Re: Let's talk defense OJT for Rogers. But I didn't think he looked THAT bad. He's not getting much safety help, no doubt. It's been 2 steps forward, 1 step back, IMO. Also, Leftwhich (sp) made some nice throws. He's got a strong arm and can hit that nice 12-15 yard out. And that throw where Taylor took the guy's helmet off was right on the money. As for ST and bad angles, it only sticks out becuase we're so used to him making those plays. He makes a lot of sticks in the run game, and that requires good angles as he comes up from the secondary. Yes, he was caught on that one TD, but that guy is a likety-split little guy. Warning to the cowboys--ST is only going to get better. Meanwhile, the sainted Roy is only getting older... __________________ Hail from Houston!

10-02-2006, 08:41 PM	#35
D'BOYZ The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,363	Re: Let's talk defense Have you seen roy this year I know ST is getting better but roy is also getting better he's only 26 C'mon

10-02-2006, 08:47 PM	#36
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Let's talk defense yeah, definately their best game. Our secondary still kinda sucks right now though. Rogers had a bad game and Taylor had a bad game (for Sean Taylor). Curry Burns probably shouldn't be on the field either. (he was being used where GW wanted to use Prioleau before injury, subbing him in on passing downs to protect archuleta from blown coverages).

10-02-2006, 08:52 PM	#37
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Let's talk defense where the heck did burns come from? he was horrible. and golston gets better and better with each week. __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

10-02-2006, 09:17 PM	#38
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Let's talk defense I'm worried that Sean Taylor won't be able to play more than five seasons. Some guys have a few hits in a game or a highlight stick in every other game. This guy has a world shattering collision EVERY time he makes a play on the ball. It's a tremendous combination of courage and skill. He plays a game that I, as a fan, am not familiar with. It's got to catch up with him though, right? I mean he's gotta be sore today, right? How cool would it be if he isn't. I wanted to add a comment about Rock Cartwright as well. How smart is Gibbs? Most coaches put a speedster back there and hope they break one or two runs a year. Gibbs puts a bowling ball back there who over the course of the season will pick up maybe 300 more yards than the sprinter by overpowering people. And he got a TD against Dallas anyway. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

10-03-2006, 03:24 AM	#40
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 39 Posts: 2,638	Re: Let's talk defense ST is the most fun defensive player I have ever watched....he is in on every play, whether or not he makes the tackle he is ALWAYS there. I have to disagree about Carlos, he seems to be doing a pretty decent job as a number 1 corner being a second year player on a team with hardhitting (not coverage) safeties. Golston is a beast, I wouldnt mind seeing him starting permenantly. Archuletta is starting to look comfortable, and he said it helps that he was able to blitz, that it gets him into the flow of the game, and when Springs is back u better believe he'll be doing plenty of blitzing. Wright and Rumph look better every game, I will be more then comfortable with them at nickle when Springs returns. Andre Carter is coming into his own, dont be surprised to see him with 9 sacks at the end of the year, he is a strong physical guy, and dont forget that he has been up against some of the best olineman in the league. D looked better, I expect them to manhandle the Giants. As long as Tiki is stifled, and we get to Manning the Gmen dont have a chance. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

10-03-2006, 04:04 AM	#41
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	Re: Let's talk defense With Golston and Montgomery developing the way that they have ben, I think that when Joe Salavea(SP) comes back, our D will have a very good DT rotation. Keeping the big guys up front fresh will greatly help out our LB's... __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

10-03-2006, 06:59 AM	#43
skinsttw Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 174	Re: Let's talk defense I think we need to shut down TB early, put Eli on his back a few times, then enjoy the INT gifts that he will give us. Eli is either hot or cold, and he still has times when he plays like a rookie. We need to put some points on the board early. __________________ Go skins!

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