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12-29-2011, 05:07 PM | #1 |
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?
I would trade Orakpo if it was part of the package to help land a franchise QB. I think he is one of the few players we have that has high value and may even be a little over rated. not looking to move him but for a QB I would.
As for TW his value could not be lower after his suspension. And I completely disagree with the stance that he is an average LT. I think he was taking some strides towards being a very good LT this year. I do not want to trade him at all.
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12-29-2011, 05:08 PM | #2 |
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?
Willie Smith is not the same caliber as TW. He is easier to beat than TW is to beat nor is he the stalwart in the run blocking department TW is.
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12-29-2011, 05:21 PM | #3 |
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?
Yes, I would consider doing this.
However, both Williams and Orakpo are cornerstone players on this team, and I would expect at least a 2012 first round pick in return for just one of them. For both of them, we'd have to be getting something special.
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12-29-2011, 05:25 PM | #4 |
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?
Orakpo is the better trade of the two because:
1) He'll be 26 next season 2) We're already woefully short on elite offensive talent 3) He's getting close to free agency Again though, you wouldn't trade Orakpo for anything below a first round pick, so this discussion is moot anyway.
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12-29-2011, 05:33 PM | #5 |
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?
No, this is silly. You don't trade your young talented players for picks. Some of us are so "pick" crazy. Hell, we just used picks to get these guys!! So the next young thing is better than two players who have a couple of years in our system and are core components of our building process? C'mon.
As for the notion that Smith has outplayed Williams, not really even close. The problem is that some of you/us expect Williams to be a perfect, flawless instant Hall of Famer and he's not. Maybe we can give him the equivalent of 2 whole seasons before we are ready to ship him off somewhere. Sure the drug thing was extremely moronic but if he stays clean he's a cornerstone of our rebuilding process.
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12-29-2011, 05:39 PM | #6 |
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?
I think TW is being underestimated, but I also don't know where people are getting the impression we'd move either for just any picks
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12-29-2011, 05:46 PM | #7 |
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?
I know the offseason is fast approaching when the madden trade schemes are own the rise.
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12-29-2011, 06:25 PM | #8 |
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?
This. So much this.
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12-29-2011, 07:05 PM | #10 |
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Some on here must b smoking what Trent has to think Willie Smith is better than him
Do u guys watch football
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12-29-2011, 08:56 PM | #11 |
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?
Luck is not worth both of our guys, maybe one, but not both. Luck is a very good QB, but very few of these CFB QB gods pan out. Leinart didn't, Harrington didn't, Carr didn't. The best QBs in the NFL received some critical acclaim come draft dat, but weren't gods, and one(Brady) was a late round pick. Big Ben, Drew, and Matt Stafford all garnered good press, but not like Leinart, Bradford, Newton, and now Luck. Every big game Luck was in he was brought down to earth. Even with Newton being a stud, he still can't get his team a win, much like MJ and the Bulls before Pippen and co. One guy isn't going to turn our team around. We need multiple pieces to the puzzle.
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12-29-2011, 09:52 PM | #13 |
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?
Orakpo is a major asset to the team and second thoughts says any thoughts to trading him is not smart.
Silverback, while showing major potential, is logical candidate to involve in a move up trade to get Luck along with our 1st round pick either this years, or preferable next year's. Silverback shows promise, but im sorry the weed thing showed a major character flaw IMO. Now weed is not serious to me, and i could careless if he smokes as long as passes it and keeps the rotation going. But to be as careless and Ricky Williams about testing is flat out stupid. Is he the type that is gonna come back, work harder, learn from this mistake, and become that probowl talent he is capable of? Work hard wasnt his mo at school from what i remember. Its gonna be very interesting how he responds, so far crickets. Id let Silverback go to get that Franchise QB talent we have lacked in Luck and not give a second thought.
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12-29-2011, 10:10 PM | #14 |
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Re: Would you consider trading Orakpo and Trent Williams for picks?
for straight up picks? no. if it's for a QB worth talking about, or moving up for luck, maybe.
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Trent is a top 10 LT and I think people forget how hard it is to replace them.
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