03-27-2012, 06:57 AM | #31 |
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Re: A New Look Offense or the Same but Better?
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1- everyone is saying RG3 fits our scheme so there should not be a whole lot of changes. 2- one media source I was listening to mentioned that with Garçon, AA, Moss, and Gaffney because of the speed and RG3 we should be able to add a little spread offense wrinkle. 3- MS and KS just don't seem the type to change what their doing for their QBs sake, ie; McNabb, Beck. I think they will keep the offense the same but use RG3's speed with a lot more roll outs and bootlegs. That should open up the down field shots since the defense will have to put one guy to shadow RG3. |
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03-27-2012, 09:37 AM | #32 | |
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Former Shanahan coordinator says RG3 "is going to fit perfect" with Redskins - Washington Times
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Quick history lesson on Mike Shanahan's history with QB. John Elway-strengths were rolling out, athleticism, making plays on the move Brian Greise-strengths (loosely used term) were dropping back, pocket passer Jake Plummer-strengths were rolling out, play action, deep throwbacks Jay Cutler-strenghts were setting up in shotgun, reading pre snap, pocket passer Each time he had a different QB, he adapted his offense to meet their strengths and had success with all of them. So what's happened in DC? He got a QB whose strengths (deep ball, mobility, creating plays outside the scope of the offense) were no longer strengths in McNabb and a QB whose strengths (again, loosely used term) are as a pocket passer executing the offense in a precise manner who sabotages his own success by poor decision making and ball security issues in Grossman. In the 3 game Beckoning, we saw a slightly different offense, more boots, more rollouts than we saw with Grossman. The biggest issue is none of them have been any good. Adaptability of the offense or a willingness to 'change' the offense is not an issue, it's talk radio show fodder. To the question from the OP, I think it will be a new look for us because we will see more boots, more designed rollouts, more spread concepts but the core of the offense will be the same but better.
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03-27-2012, 11:19 AM | #34 | |
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Plummer, Griese, Cutler, Grossman, McNabb, and Beck. I mean, didn't you notice we did very little roll out with Rex at the helm, but as soon as Beck came in, we started bootlegging a bit? Come on man, keep up.
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03-27-2012, 03:02 PM | #36 | |
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However I would be more then fine with some 3 or 4 wide shotgun sets with a couple run-option-pass thrown in there. I still think though that if the Shanahan experiment fails in 2 or 3 years then the next coach should come in and build a new offense from the ground up with major input from RG3 or whatever they did with Chudzinski and Newton in Carolina. Either way I'm very comfortable with the idea of RG3 going under center and giving the other team a steady dose of bootlegs, zone runs, and play action fakes. In fact as I've been saying all along those bootlegs with RG3 are going to help open some great cutback lanes for our backs on zone runs.
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03-27-2012, 03:15 PM | #37 |
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Plain and simple, I just want to see the 'skins score 30+ points a ball game.
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how nice would that be
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I love Mike's Denver WCO. When I think of the Mike's DWCO (bootleg/bootswap) I wonder if Kyle can ever fully commit to the run focused football that style of offense requires. Kyle playcalling pallet has always leaned towards the pass. And I'm not saying the above as good/bad value judgement but as an observation. As long as Kyle is the OC I think we'll always pass the ball more. And if we're going to pass more then why not run more spread? Kyle has already shown some spread looks, why not take the offense further in that direction like the Bills, Bengals, Patriots and Packers? And if Kyle is gonna add spread components why not bring them in from Baylor's offense? Particularly the 5 wide empty sets. Question: Do you think Cam would have been as productive and dynamic in a traditional pro-style offense? |
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However if Kyle incorporates more of his Dad's concepts, like doing stuff off bootlegs and focusing on establishing the run then I would definitely want to see the same offense. I mean either way Kyle is going to call the plays the question is which style is he going to use. Personally I imagine that he's going to want to move RG3 around and the reason it was more traditional in Houston (and Washington to an extent) was due to Schuab's (Grossman's) limited mobility.
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Love the new regime.....
Can't wait to see what they can do this season
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Former Shanahan coordinator says RG3 "is going to fit perfect" with Redskins - Washington Times
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I wonder why he chose to mention Mike as opposed to Kyle? Because if you look at the playcalling tendecies between Mike and Kyle, especially pass/run ratio, Kyle doesn't share Mike's run focus. I love Kubiak's last sentence because it kinda opens the door to the possibility of more spread elements and maybe even some zone-read. It also naturally leads to this question: What specifically (formation/play concepts) does Griffin do best from Baylor's offense? |
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Or secret option C he resents Kyle
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On the topic of this thread, I'm going to choose option C: our current offense already fits RG3 pretty well.
So I don't think Kyle will do anything with his offense that he wouldn't have done under normal circumstances unrelated to the new quarterback, but I think he's justified in keeping things similar.
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