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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

https://frenchfoodintheus.org/504#:~...ning%20process. ?

Sexually arousing.

[Chico23231]

Why was Haskins allowed to start the season if he was never the guy?

Why was Cornelius Lucas and Wes Schweitzer not starting on the left side on the Oline when they have been heads and tails better than Geron Christian and Wes Martin?

The dishonesty and bullshit flowing from Rivera...I don’t see a fucking culture change when we don’t play the best players from the onset. Horseshit

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Why was Haskins allowed to start the season if he was never the guy?

Why was Cornelius Lucas and Wes Schweitzer not starting on the left side on the Oline when they have been heads and tails better than Geron Christian and Wes Martin?

The dishonesty and bullshit flowing from Rivera...I don’t see a fucking culture change when we don’t play the best players from the onset. Horseshit

You want wins this year, Rivera wants (or wanted now that he realized we are not far off from clinching the division) to evaluate everyone on the roster this year. Big difference.

[Chico23231]

Rivera doesn’t know what the hell he wants, multiple times this season he has contradicted himself with decision making.

[MTK]

Outside of Holcomb all the LBs are garbage. Need to wipe the slate clean there in the offseason.

[Chico23231]

Holcomb looks great...KPL is ok, but we need a middle linebacker to bring the defense together and take it too next level. We need linebacker who can clean up the run behind a dline that eats up the proper space...but we can’t finish.

[Coff]

It's hard to understand what it is about this defense that is so bad. Statistically it's a decent defense. But there are unmeasurable qualities that make it terrible. No matter what, this defense will always put the opposing team in a position to win the game. We blame coordinators, replace them, and it gets no better. We spend loads of first round draft picks trying to improve it, and it gets no better. We replace head coaches, sign free agents, and nothing gets better. Occasionally, it will play a good game. But we know what they say about stopped clocks. Usually, it will play two good quarters of football. But it typically allows other teams to take early leads, and it never stops opposing teams late in close games. When Antonio Pierce was in the middle and Gregg Williams the coordinator, it was a good defense. Since then it's been a perennial disappointment. I don't think it matters who we draft, sign, or have coaching. My theory is this: because defense much more than offense demands motivation and pride, the continual underperformance of the team's defense from year to year is a symptom of the team's dysfunction, unprofessionalism, and lack of accountability.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by Coff

the continual underperformance of the team's defense from year to year is a symptom of the team's dysfunction, unprofessionalism, and lack of accountability.

Unfortunately, this is how I'm starting to feel about things regarding our team.

[Redskins247]

Well I'm back in last seasons mode...play hard, but better to have the loss and stay in the hunt for a top 5 pick and just hope that they get a QB that will be good for years...and hopefully the owner won't make the pick.

[rocnrik]

It’s coaching .. it’s a mind set .. culture if you will ..at this moment we are among the worst in all of pro sports .. yea the jets maybe bad but they would beat us because we would help them beat us .. that’s the deal .WE BEAT OURSELVES!! .. maybe we need to quit drafting the best player available and actually trade down for best player for what the team needs ( which is a lot) .. we had a pretty good D line before draft last year .. what we needed was Middle Linebacker and DB .. we could have gotten at least 2 huge upgrade starters with that pick instead of a pass rusher that is really not making a huge difference ..this team does way better with the mid round picks .I’m not saying Young is not good on the right team he would be lights out however this is not looking like a great fit ..

[SunnySide]

Offense - I think we are starting to get a good look at what Scott Turner's offensive scheme is. QB makes quick read and throws to the safest option. This is usually a back out of the backfield (1st read by design), a back as a check down (2nd or 3rd read) or a receiver/te underneath.

Very few designed throws outside the numbers.

Lions up 24-3 in the 3rd quarter allowed our underneath offense to click. Alex Smith was something like 11 consecutive catches and like 25/30. Then with the game close, we started to struggle with the underneath/middle of the field stuff as the Lions adjusted their D.

Play action? Have we seen a single legit PA long ball this year?

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Cornelius Lucas has a solid 72.6 PFF grade.
Wes Schweitzer a 64.1.
Chase Roullier 70.1
Brandon Scherff 77.7
Morgan Moses 78.0

Morgan Moses has stepped up this year. When he moved to LT and Sharpe came in, we saw a big drop off in play on that right side.

O line coach gets a ton of credit from me and makes we wonder if Callahan was too immune for criticism around here. I think Jay made a mistake giving Callahan majority say in how the run game would be designed and called.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Cornelius Lucas has a solid 72.6 PFF grade.
Wes Schweitzer a 64.1.
Chase Roullier 70.1
Brandon Scherff 77.7
Morgan Moses 78.0

Morgan Moses has stepped up this year. When he moved to LT and Sharpe came in, we saw a big drop off in play on that right side.

O line coach gets a ton of credit from me and makes we wonder if Callahan was too immune for criticism around here. I think Jay made a mistake giving Callahan majority say in how the run game would be designed and called.

Thanks for posting the oline info...this matches what I’m seeing. I think the oline has been good, but I think it could be much better.

My quick plan what I would do this offseason:

Sign a TE that can block, it would immensely help the oline as a whole.

Resign Roullier. Moses playing well and under contract.

Let Schreff test the market with the plan of Schweitzer moving to the right, from what Cooley says is his more natural side.

I’d develop Charles and plan him to play on the left side.

I’d look to spend the Schreff the money on Left Tackle, there are several good ones available, mainly the guy in Green Bay...maybe the Carolina LT could be available. If this wouldn’t work, then go into next season with a plan to use Charles/Lucus at LT. If we could sign one, slide Charles in at left guard and Lucus as the swing tackle.

I think Christian is depth. Wes Martin looks like another wasted oline pick.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I’d look to spend the Schreff the money on Left Tackle, there are several good ones available, mainly the guy in Green Bay...maybe the Carolina LT could be available. If this wouldn’t work, then go into next season with a plan to use Charles/Lucus at LT. If we could sign one, slide Charles in at left guard and Lucus as the swing tackle.

I think Christian is depth. Wes Martin looks like another wasted oline pick.

Bakhitari (GB) just signed a massive extension. Ravens Stanley signed a massive extension. Those were the 2 big legit all pros worth top dollar. I ma very curious to see what type of cuts have to be made due to the shrinking cap next year.

Crazy thought ..

option 1:

Moses (LT), Martin or FA (LG), Roullier (C), Schweitzer (RG), Scherff (RT)

depth - christain, martin, 2nd to 4th round IOL draftee

option 2:

top 5 draft pick (LT), Schweitzer (LG), Roullier (C), Scherff (RG), Moses (RT)

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IM still torn on Scherff. My biggest worry is his durability, I fear once we sign him to a massive 5 year deal his knees will blow out or some linger back injury.

But do we really want to create a new hole when we are trying to patch 2 spots already on the O line?

perfect world .. scherff comes back down to reality and signs a 10-12M per type deal.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Offense - I think we are starting to get a good look at what Scott Turner's offensive scheme is. QB makes quick read and throws to the safest option. This is usually a back out of the backfield (1st read by design), a back as a check down (2nd or 3rd read) or a receiver/te underneath.

Very few designed throws outside the numbers.

Lions up 24-3 in the 3rd quarter allowed our underneath offense to click. Alex Smith was something like 11 consecutive catches and like 25/30. Then with the game close, we started to struggle with the underneath/middle of the field stuff as the Lions adjusted their D.

Play action? Have we seen a single legit PA long ball this year?

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Cornelius Lucas has a solid 72.6 PFF grade.
Wes Schweitzer a 64.1.
Chase Roullier 70.1
Brandon Scherff 77.7
Morgan Moses 78.0

Morgan Moses has stepped up this year. When he moved to LT and Sharpe came in, we saw a big drop off in play on that right side.

O line coach gets a ton of credit from me and makes we wonder if Callahan was too immune for criticism around here. I think Jay made a mistake giving Callahan majority say in how the run game would be designed and called.

Moses has gone from good, to man WTF is wrong with him, to playing great this year.

I'd resign him to an extension before Scherff (if we could only keep 1). Way harder to find good tackles.

[Back2RFK]

I go outside for a minute thinking I would be back in to watch over time only to see the Lions celebrating. LOL