Marcus Mason signed by the Jets off Ravens practice squad

[Redskins_P]

LOL, I don't get it. When did anyone here say that we expected SA to come in here and tear it up? They signed SA because he knows the offense and is very familiar with most of our offensive coaching staff. I NEVER expected SA to come in here and play at an MVP level, and for anyone who did, they must be smoking some serious $hit! You can't expect him to come in here and tear it up after he'd been out of the league for almost 2 years.

The front office and coaching staff decided to go with a veteran instead of young undrafted player who hadn't done anything at this level.

I don't know what you expect me to say? SA is only here because Betts is injured. Not because we badly needed him and not because we think he's better than Betts. He was signed at veteran MINIMUM for 1 year. You guys make it sound like we broke the bank for this guy and expected him to be a MVP. We already have an MVP in Portis!

[BDBohnzie]

It's nepotism in a NFL, not related sort of way.

While Mason is the younger guy with more upside, Alexander is the 4 week security blanket which whom both Stump and Zorn have known and coached his entire career. Mason has more potential for the future, but Alexander has more potential for the right this minute, which is what the coaching staff is looking for.

Granted, Alexander hasn't done much....I won't argue with that. However, I do believe Alexander's impact could be reach further than Mason's during this stretch without Ladell. I also think too that the Skins were excited about the potential a tandem like Portis and Alexander could very well be, if Alexander returns to MVP form. Not saying he will, but the case is there...

[Jake2008]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

It's nepotism in a NFL, not related sort of way.

While Mason is the younger guy with more upside, Alexander is the 4 week security blanket which whom both Stump and Zorn have known and coached his entire career. Mason has more potential for the future, but Alexander has more potential for the right this minute, which is what the coaching staff is looking for.

Granted, Alexander hasn't done much....I won't argue with that. However, I do believe Alexander's impact could be reach further than Mason's during this stretch without Ladell. I also think too that the Skins were excited about the potential a tandem like Portis and Alexander could very well be, if Alexander returns to MVP form. Not saying he will, but the case is there...

I agree with your theory, but I don't think we will ever know if SA would provide more impact then Mason. SA knows the offense, but I don't think that is a huge advantage for a running back.

I do think some people think of SA and the glory years and vision him playing like that again. We have done this many times with older superstars and so of all people we should know better by now. I think SA is an average back at best now and if Portis goes out neither him nor Mason could replace him and we would be in trouble. Mason just has the upside of youth and desire.

[SirClintonPortis]

I have reason to believe Portis finds Alexander more valuable than Mason, even if only as a information resource.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I have reason to believe Portis finds Alexander more valuable than Mason, even if only as a information resource.

Straight from the horse's mouth folks.

Shouldn't you be at practice or watching some film?

[Jake2008]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I have reason to believe Portis finds Alexander more valuable than Mason, even if only as a information resource.

I don't think there is much if anything that SA could teach Portis at this point in his career. If anything I would say Mason would have benefitted from Portis's knowledge which could have been beneficial in the long run.

[hail_2_da_skins]

Let's beat this dead horse some more ...

Running backs in the NFL take a tremendous beating. The typical life span of a NFL running back is less than five years. The drop off in production is exponential and rarely is regained. The point I've tried to make, and others as well, is Shaun Alexander is well past that point of being productive. This off-season, all 32 teams agreed with this point. If he had anything left, he wouldn't have been a free agent for so long. I know Zorn and Stump are buddies with Alexander and that's why they picked him up. He is nothing more than a warm body. Running back is a young man's position. Running back is one of the few positions a player can come straight out of college and make an immediate contribution to a team. The only reason we keep talking about Mason is he showed potential. To me, that's better than a warm body.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

The only reason we keep talking about Mason is he showed potential. To me, that's better than a warm body.

Ironically, that's all Mason is to the Jets...

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Let's beat this dead horse some more ...

Running backs in the NFL take a tremendous beating. The typical life span of a NFL running back is less than five years. The drop off in production is exponential and rarely is regained. The point I've tried to make, and others as well, is Shaun Alexander is well past that point of being productive. This off-season, all 32 teams agreed with this point. If he had anything left, he wouldn't have been a free agent for so long. I know Zorn and Stump are buddies with Alexander and that's why they picked him up. He is nothing more than a warm body. Running back is a young man's position. Running back is one of the few positions a player can come straight out of college and make an immediate contribution to a team. The only reason we keep talking about Mason is he showed potential. To me, that's better than a warm body.

Well put!!

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Let's beat this dead horse some more ...

Running backs in the NFL take a tremendous beating. The typical life span of a NFL running back is less than five years. The drop off in production is exponential and rarely is regained. The point I've tried to make, and others as well, is Shaun Alexander is well past that point of being productive. This off-season, all 32 teams agreed with this point. If he had anything left, he wouldn't have been a free agent for so long. I know Zorn and Stump are buddies with Alexander and that's why they picked him up. He is nothing more than a warm body. Running back is a young man's position. Running back is one of the few positions a player can come straight out of college and make an immediate contribution to a team. The only reason we keep talking about Mason is he showed potential. To me, that's better than a warm body.

You are one smart mother fucker. You must have a PHD or some shit. I applaud your contribution to this site through that one post.

For years we were pissed about signing overaged, has been, FA's and we were pissed because we were giving up draft picks at the same time. We do the right thing for one offseason and all of a sudden the signing of 1 over aged veteran is now accecptable.

I would have thought by now that we realized that a team is built on the draft and youth, not by some "has been" who is looking for a paycheck.

All of those who thought that signing SA was a good idea have disappointed me, bcause I thought that we had realized that this sort of a thing is not always best for the team.

I understand that most will argue that we did not pay much for him, but I disagree; giving up a roster spot for a unproductive player was an expense that a winning organization should not tolerate or resort to.

Thanks for your time.

[SirClintonPortis]

Hmm, I wonder why Portis watched film that had Alexander playing to get himself acquainted with Zorn'sWCO.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Hmm, I wonder why Portis watched film that had Alexander playing to get himself acquainted with Zorn'sWCO.

If I didn't want to cause tension in the locker room I would blow smoke up his ass too. CP was already a household name before SA was League MVP.

[Jake2008]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Hmm, I wonder why Portis watched film that had Alexander playing to get himself acquainted with Zorn'sWCO.

Portis is a class act. There is nothing he says here that is surprising. You would never see Portis say 'Look I am the league rushing leader and have been great for years. There is nothing SA can teach me.'

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Hmm, I wonder why Portis watched film that had Alexander playing to get himself acquainted with Zorn'sWCO.

The answer lies within the title: "To get acquainted with Zorn's WCO" I guess he should have watch films of WR's?

With Mason now we might get to see if he really can play in the NFL if he gets any or enough carrys. The reason I said enough carrys is because one big run or one for a loss will tell us nothing.

[dmek25]

enough of this crap. neither one of these guys would get more then 5 carries. so it could have been me they signed, and it really wouldn't make that much of a difference