Steve Smith Or Santana Moss?

shallyshal · 01-22-2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I love Moss, but Smith is a slight notch above him right now.

do you want to reconsider that after the title game today ? i think smith is great but he gets frustrated . he reminds me a lot of gary clark. same kind of emotional explosive player who gets really upset if things are not going his way

MTK · 01-22-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shallyshal

do you want to reconsider that after the title game today ? i think smith is great but he gets frustrated . he reminds me a lot of gary clark. same kind of emotional explosive player who gets really upset if things are not going his way

It's not like only Smith struggled today for the Panthers. The Seahawks game planned very well to take him away and nobody else stepped up for them. Delhomme was pressured and didn't play well, and Goings got knocked out the game early.

Smith is still a notch better than Moss in my book, but it's not a big notch. Moss is right there.

I think Smith's "attitude" is being taken a bit out of context. The guy was obviously frustrated, but I don't think he's like TO for example who gets frustrated when he doesn't get the ball, I think Smith was frustrated because his offense was struggling and they were losing... big difference.

BigSKINBauer · 01-22-2006, 10:27 PM

I don't mind players getting frustrated but smith has anger issues. That has no place on the offensive side of the ball. He has been this way all year but things aren't gonna show until you lose. He is a great player but his attitude is in question. He also is extremely cocky even for a WR. Santana Moss seems so happy to be having a great season with opportunities that he feels blessed and doesn't act cocky. Santana's celebrations consist of him spinning the ball on the ground and that is it. I wouldn't take anyone over moss right now. He needs a great number two and this team will be completely unstopable.

70Chip · 01-23-2006, 12:29 AM

Its a coin-flip talent wise. But who wants to watch Big Baby throw a fit every time things don't go well. I like the way Moss carries himself. He's intense without looking foolish. I also like the fact that he gave those two turban guys face time after the big score against the Giants. It makes our fanbase seem very cosmopolitan.

j_j__l · 01-23-2006, 01:42 AM

I'd take either...Moss is probably a little faster/quicker, and Smith is hands down STRONGER....but I just think Panthers Offense was just executed better for Smith then ours was fro Moss...That's why i can't wait to see what Saunders does with a WR like Moss and Cooley and Portis...We saw what he could to with a RB and TE, now he has a WR option also....I also think he will help get JC's arm on the field to run his offense sooner then later...

Luxorreb · 01-23-2006, 04:01 AM

Both Moss and Smith are pro bowlers. Both great players. I do think I'd go with Moss cause he isn't as cocky on the field. Moss is a big hearted player like Smith and both have been penalized for questioning authority this season. Today Smith's behavior on the sideline was ridiculous, but it did NOT affect the on field play. He came right back and return a punt for a TD. Don't wanna see Moss return punts unless its an emergency, just like I don't wanna see Antonio Brown with the Redskins next season.

dmek25 · 01-23-2006, 05:04 AM

when i look at both these guys,they are almost carbon copies,talent wise.im just glad we have one of them.and about smith having better talent besides him,i would take thrash over their other receivers,which is saying alot because i think thrash is worthless on offense

That Guy · 01-23-2006, 08:24 AM

there are games where smith smith totally dissappears, moss is more consistant, but less likely to have 200 yard days do to scheme etc.

MTK · 01-23-2006, 12:03 PM

Smith went over 100 yards in 10 games this year and in two of those he topped 200. Keep in mind Smith did all this without the benefit of a Chris Cooley too, the next closest player in receptions on the Panthers was Foster with 34 catches.

Moss went over 100 yards 6 times in comparison.

skns03 · 01-23-2006, 12:10 PM

i would rather have santana moss not just because he is on the skins but he hasn't been injured before and it wouldn't effect him

saden1 · 01-23-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by skns03

i would rather have santana moss not just because he is on the skins but he hasn't been injured before and it wouldn't effect him

Hate to break it to you but Santana was injured his first season in the NFL and has been nicked up a number of times while with the Jets.

Dana87 · 01-23-2006, 02:05 PM

Well, for all of you guys that are in love with S.Smith. How did he do when someone decided to roll the coverage to him the way they did Santana all year. For my money I would rather have Moss. Smith also had a QB that would make a bad decision with the ball, but it gave Smith a chance to make the play. Santana had a QB that would not force the ball. There were a lot of times this year that Santana probably would have made the play if given a chance.

MTK · 01-23-2006, 02:14 PM

Nobody played Moss as tough as the Seahawks played Smith yesterday. They had 2-3 guys on him every play.

Jerry Rice in his prime would have struggled yesterday.

Gibbs is God · 01-23-2006, 04:56 PM

haha nice question sam...i didnt think u r that smart

i would go with santana b/c hes a little faster and doesnt complain or whine on the sidelines when he doesnt get the ball. steve smith is still a amazing WR though.

CooleyFan · 01-24-2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

smith has better recievers on the other side and delhomme is much better than brunell.

smiths numbers are higher cause they throw like 8 screens to him every game and run at least 2-3 WR reverses a game as well. They make sure he gets the ball no matter what... gibbs didn't really do that. Moss only got stopped on one screen all season i think, the rest got him 8+ yards every time.

Delhomme is a cajun queer. He's horrible. Brunell is MUCH better. Wait till we get our dirtbags back all healthy, and some time for Brunell to throw. Plus with Saunders? Watch. Brunell is going to surprise a lot of people.

01-22-2006, 10:27 PM	#33
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: Steve Smith Or Santana Moss? I don't mind players getting frustrated but smith has anger issues. That has no place on the offensive side of the ball. He has been this way all year but things aren't gonna show until you lose. He is a great player but his attitude is in question. He also is extremely cocky even for a WR. Santana Moss seems so happy to be having a great season with opportunities that he feels blessed and doesn't act cocky. Santana's celebrations consist of him spinning the ball on the ground and that is it. I wouldn't take anyone over moss right now. He needs a great number two and this team will be completely unstopable.

01-23-2006, 12:29 AM	#34
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Steve Smith Or Santana Moss? Its a coin-flip talent wise. But who wants to watch Big Baby throw a fit every time things don't go well. I like the way Moss carries himself. He's intense without looking foolish. I also like the fact that he gave those two turban guys face time after the big score against the Giants. It makes our fanbase seem very cosmopolitan. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

01-23-2006, 01:42 AM	#35
j_j__l Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Italy Age: 46 Posts: 72	Re: Steve Smith Or Santana Moss? I'd take either...Moss is probably a little faster/quicker, and Smith is hands down STRONGER....but I just think Panthers Offense was just executed better for Smith then ours was fro Moss...That's why i can't wait to see what Saunders does with a WR like Moss and Cooley and Portis...We saw what he could to with a RB and TE, now he has a WR option also....I also think he will help get JC's arm on the field to run his offense sooner then later... __________________ World wide traveling SKINS FAN

01-23-2006, 04:01 AM	#36
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 52 Posts: 1,630	Re: Steve Smith Or Santana Moss? Both Moss and Smith are pro bowlers. Both great players. I do think I'd go with Moss cause he isn't as cocky on the field. Moss is a big hearted player like Smith and both have been penalized for questioning authority this season. Today Smith's behavior on the sideline was ridiculous, but it did NOT affect the on field play. He came right back and return a punt for a TD. Don't wanna see Moss return punts unless its an emergency, just like I don't wanna see Antonio Brown with the Redskins next season. __________________ ^21^

01-23-2006, 05:04 AM	#37
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 62 Posts: 10,672	Re: Steve Smith Or Santana Moss? when i look at both these guys,they are almost carbon copies,talent wise.im just glad we have one of them.and about smith having better talent besides him,i would take thrash over their other receivers,which is saying alot because i think thrash is worthless on offense

01-23-2006, 08:24 AM	#38
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 41 Posts: 17,512	Re: Steve Smith Or Santana Moss? there are games where smith smith totally dissappears, moss is more consistant, but less likely to have 200 yard days do to scheme etc.

01-23-2006, 12:03 PM	#39
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,449	Re: Steve Smith Or Santana Moss? Smith went over 100 yards in 10 games this year and in two of those he topped 200. Keep in mind Smith did all this without the benefit of a Chris Cooley too, the next closest player in receptions on the Panthers was Foster with 34 catches. Moss went over 100 yards 6 times in comparison.

01-23-2006, 12:10 PM	#40
skns03 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Glen Allen Va Posts: 35	Re: Steve Smith Or Santana Moss? i would rather have santana moss not just because he is on the skins but he hasn't been injured before and it wouldn't effect him

01-23-2006, 02:05 PM	#42
Dana87 Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Saint Augustine, Florida Age: 62 Posts: 130	Re: Steve Smith Or Santana Moss? Well, for all of you guys that are in love with S.Smith. How did he do when someone decided to roll the coverage to him the way they did Santana all year. For my money I would rather have Moss. Smith also had a QB that would make a bad decision with the ball, but it gave Smith a chance to make the play. Santana had a QB that would not force the ball. There were a lot of times this year that Santana probably would have made the play if given a chance. __________________ "Home Field Advantage Throughout the '06 Playoffs"

01-23-2006, 02:14 PM	#43
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,449	Re: Steve Smith Or Santana Moss? Nobody played Moss as tough as the Seahawks played Smith yesterday. They had 2-3 guys on him every play. Jerry Rice in his prime would have struggled yesterday.

01-23-2006, 04:56 PM	#44
Gibbs is God Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Richmond,VA Age: 32 Posts: 20	Re: Steve Smith Or Santana Moss? haha nice question sam...i didnt think u r that smart i would go with santana b/c hes a little faster and doesnt complain or whine on the sidelines when he doesnt get the ball. steve smith is still a amazing WR though.

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