Samari Rolle??

MTK · 02-28-2005, 09:01 AM

Smoot is 26, Rolle is 28 I think.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 09:03 AM

Ahh OK, then not so bad. I still am clinging to hopes Smoot will stay but it's not looking good unless all this is is rhetoric.

Redskins_P · 02-28-2005, 09:17 AM

I really don't get this move. What happened to keeping our core guys?

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 09:21 AM

For real. Of all of the off-season happenings (with the exception of Coles), this move is making the least sense.

Redskins_P · 02-28-2005, 09:25 AM

If we can give Samari Rolle a 15 million signing bonus, then why can't we give Smoot the same? If not, at least offer him 13 million or something. Theres gotta be more to this. Either Smoot is asking for an insane bonus, or the Defensive Coaches feel like they're better off with Rolle instead of Smoot.

I still don't get it, and probably won't until next season. If Rolle comes in has a Pro Bowl year, then I won't complain.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 09:28 AM

Hell, if we're going to go with this approach we might as well try and get John Abraham, Mushin Muhammed and more. I mean of course the Redskins would be better off with THESE players so why aren't we going after them. :P

I mean seriously why do an "apples for apples" trade unless someone is doing some seriously shading dealings.

I feel like the Redskins are trying to screw Smoot.

MTK · 02-28-2005, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

I really don't get this move. What happened to keeping our core guys?

There was always a catch though, we want to keep guys at the right price. I guess Smoot has priced himself out of our range, or Williams views Rolle as a better fit. It's probably a combo of the two.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 09:29 AM

I can't get enough how the "team leaders" get treated on this team. Again, it's sending a TERRIBLE message to the team and the rest of the league.

Redskins_P · 02-28-2005, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

There was always a catch though, we want to keep guys at the right price. I guess Smoot has priced himself out of our range, or Williams views Rolle as a better fit. It's probably a combo of the two.

Thats exactly what I'm thinking. I wonder what kind of bonus Smoot is looking for? 16 million?

Or the coaches feel like all hes worth is a 10-12 million dollar signing bonus.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 09:34 AM

If that's the case I would agree with Williams' assessment. I would hate to see him acting like that, just as I would hate to see the Redskins letting 1-2 million get in the way of retaining Smoot. I wish we had some more details on the talks.

Beemnseven · 02-28-2005, 10:05 AM

You know, hearing the terms "locker-room leader," "team leader," and "a guy who the players look up to" are starting to become cliches, and it's getting a little old.

How do any of us know what a player's "locker-room presence" is? The only team leader any organization should have is the head coach. The guy everyone should 'look up to' is Joe Gibbs.

Let's face it. If the role of "locker-room leader" is so vital to a team's success, then judging by the W/L records our organization has generated over the last four years doesn't say much for our "team leaders".

MTK · 02-28-2005, 10:09 AM

Great points Beems, I agree

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 10:12 AM

Granted, not everyone can live on the fact they "try hard" and are "a team player," BUT if a person is to be based on one extreme or another (pure talent) then the faults are almost as equal. Coles has great talent and right now he is not being a "team player." I don't see how anyone can say that is not important.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 10:15 AM

The Patriots are a perfect example.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 10:16 AM

The Eagles are basically the Anti-Patriots. They show that having a lot of talent won't necessarily transfer into a Super Bowl victory.

02-28-2005, 09:01 AM	#31
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,427	Re: Samari Rolle?? Smoot is 26, Rolle is 28 I think. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

02-28-2005, 09:03 AM	#32
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Samari Rolle?? Ahh OK, then not so bad. I still am clinging to hopes Smoot will stay but it's not looking good unless all this is is rhetoric. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 09:17 AM	#33
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Samari Rolle?? I really don't get this move. What happened to keeping our core guys?

02-28-2005, 09:21 AM	#34
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Samari Rolle?? For real. Of all of the off-season happenings (with the exception of Coles), this move is making the least sense. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 09:25 AM	#35
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Samari Rolle?? If we can give Samari Rolle a 15 million signing bonus, then why can't we give Smoot the same? If not, at least offer him 13 million or something. Theres gotta be more to this. Either Smoot is asking for an insane bonus, or the Defensive Coaches feel like they're better off with Rolle instead of Smoot. I still don't get it, and probably won't until next season. If Rolle comes in has a Pro Bowl year, then I won't complain.

02-28-2005, 09:28 AM	#36
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Samari Rolle?? Hell, if we're going to go with this approach we might as well try and get John Abraham, Mushin Muhammed and more. I mean of course the Redskins would be better off with THESE players so why aren't we going after them. :P I mean seriously why do an "apples for apples" trade unless someone is doing some seriously shading dealings. I feel like the Redskins are trying to screw Smoot. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 09:29 AM	#38
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Samari Rolle?? I can't get enough how the "team leaders" get treated on this team. Again, it's sending a TERRIBLE message to the team and the rest of the league. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 09:34 AM	#40
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Samari Rolle?? If that's the case I would agree with Williams' assessment. I would hate to see him acting like that, just as I would hate to see the Redskins letting 1-2 million get in the way of retaining Smoot. I wish we had some more details on the talks. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 10:05 AM	#41
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Samari Rolle?? You know, hearing the terms "locker-room leader," "team leader," and "a guy who the players look up to" are starting to become cliches, and it's getting a little old. How do any of us know what a player's "locker-room presence" is? The only team leader any organization should have is the head coach. The guy everyone should 'look up to' is Joe Gibbs. Let's face it. If the role of "locker-room leader" is so vital to a team's success, then judging by the W/L records our organization has generated over the last four years doesn't say much for our "team leaders".

02-28-2005, 10:09 AM	#42
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,427	Re: Samari Rolle?? Great points Beems, I agree __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

02-28-2005, 10:12 AM	#43
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Samari Rolle?? Granted, not everyone can live on the fact they "try hard" and are "a team player," BUT if a person is to be based on one extreme or another (pure talent) then the faults are almost as equal. Coles has great talent and right now he is not being a "team player." I don't see how anyone can say that is not important. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 10:15 AM	#44
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Samari Rolle?? The Patriots are a perfect example. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 10:16 AM	#45
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Samari Rolle?? The Eagles are basically the Anti-Patriots. They show that having a lot of talent won't necessarily transfer into a Super Bowl victory. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

Samari Rolle??

Locker Room Main Forum