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View Poll Results: Should the Redskins pay or trade Trent Williams? | |||
Pay him | 34 | 46.58% | |
Trade him | 39 | 53.42% | |
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06-04-2019, 06:53 PM | #1 | |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
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06-04-2019, 04:10 PM | #2 |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
The offseason is always the season of holdouts somewhere. Why do players holdout in June? Because they are not getting paid in June. Once paychecks/game checks are missed, you would be surprised how quickly that holdout ends.
His holdout means nothing but a trend on Twitter and he won't get injured in OTAs. Thats it. Means nothing, nadda, zip. Only take his holdout seriously if he is still holding out week 1 of the regular season. |
06-04-2019, 04:15 PM | #3 | |
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06-04-2019, 04:23 PM | #4 |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
Trent looked at Flowers as backup and saw $$$$$
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06-04-2019, 05:39 PM | #5 |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
Not only that but Ty is gone and knows there's literally nothing behind him. Christian didn't show much last year and we're going to be playing a rookie QB. Trent holds all the cards if you ask me.
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06-04-2019, 04:26 PM | #6 |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
I wouldn't give him anything extravagant. I don't think we should tie ourselves to 4 guaranteed years. He hasn't played a full season since 2013. Even though he's still playing elite football, he's either at peak point or slightly past it. He's still hitting us up for 14mil on the cap the next two years.
We need to lock up Scherff before we extend Williams.
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06-04-2019, 04:50 PM | #7 |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
Did Trent decide to do this at a bad timing? Yes, we are already close to our cap limit (largely thanks to QB situation). However we must acknowledge this is not players' issue, that is entirely on FO alone. FO, owners, and fans always say it's business whenever they decide to cut or trade players, and it is personal when players try to turn the table around. It's comical how fans always complain when they think players are being greedy and don't complain when owners are being greedy. The less money players get, the more money owners have in their pocket. If I spend money on NFL games, I would very much prefer for majority of my money go to players, not Dan Snyder and NFL.
Does Trent deserve a raise? Absolutely, he has shown that he is one of best tackles in NFL (and history) on consistent basis. There is no argument against this regardless of what few of you guys are claiming against Trent. Sure, there is injury factor but we can easily work around this by offering a raise based on incentives (For example, Trent must play 80% of season to earn $2m more). Redskins can protect themselves with this incentive contract - if Trent gets injured again and cannot play for a while, then Redskins can use the money that is allocated to Trent's incentive contract to sign a free agent tackle to replace Trent if necessary. For those people who are saying that we should trade Trent - who will you replace Trent with? At this point, there is no available tackle that is even remotely close to Trent's level. Imagine this, you have been working for your employer for 10 years making 50k a year. You have consistenly put in full efforts to complete your assignments with high standards, and your employer absolutely loves you and is dependent on you providing high quality work at all times. Then you see your employer (or your employer's competitors) hire people for same position you work - those people might have less experience than you do, and some people complete same assignments with subpar standards and yet they are making 70k a year. Will you continue to keep your head down and work until you retire, or will you make efforts to get a pay raise or find a different job? The bottom line is, (1) Trent just made a decision that will benefit himself and his family and at same time, it puts Redskins in a difficult position. (2) Redskins need to extend Scherff's contract and Redskins should not sacrifice Scherff, just to make Trent happy. (3) If I'm the FO, I will try to find a way to achieve both - without knowing full details of Redskins' salary position and etc, I would try to convert Alex Smith's money into signing bonus (or whatever strategy that will help reduce Smith's money in cap) and then rewrite Trent's current contract by adding incentives that will allow Trent earn more money without extending his contract. In other words, he will get a pay raise for remaining of his contract. By end of the contract, he will be about 32 years old and we should have a better feeling of whether he can continue to play well at that time. |
06-04-2019, 04:53 PM | #8 |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
Bad timing would have been holding out in training camp. It's the first veteran OT, totally appropriate time to start the process.
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06-04-2019, 05:17 PM | #9 |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
Don't trade him ... but don't pay him either.
He has two years left on his contract. Make him honor it. At least one year of it. Scherff is more of a priority right now. |
06-04-2019, 05:32 PM | #10 |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
This is exactly how I’m feeling.
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06-04-2019, 05:26 PM | #11 |
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Trent Williams holding out for new deal
Trent may miss a few games a season, but he also plays when he’s not even close to healthy (moreso than playing with the normal dings that come with pro football). A 70 percent Trent is still better than most left tackles. Dude doesn’t give up sacks and he’s running down field and pancaking defenders on runs. Plus he can swing inside in a pinch. Trent is the best player we have on the team. Linemen can often perform at high levels longer than other position players. He’s timed the demand perfectly in his favor.
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06-04-2019, 07:15 PM | #12 |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
There is only one analysis that matters when deciding to pay him top money.
How many games do we win this year with him, without him? (If you respond, please give the number of games you think he plays as well.) Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
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06-04-2019, 07:53 PM | #13 |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
It's a smart time for him to do this with the investment the team just made that they expect him to protect for another 3-4 years....
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06-04-2019, 09:06 PM | #14 |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
Cut Vernon Davis and give Trent a few million per year more. Otherwise, you go into a major rebuilding mode.
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06-04-2019, 09:42 PM | #15 |
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