Skins/Falcons goat of the day

[Hog's Breath]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

They also threw for more than their per game average against us, so it was a bad performance all around.

Without Springs playing.

And you can't tell me he wouldn't have had an impact, not after the Carolina game.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Hog's Breath

Without Springs playing.

And you can't tell me he wouldn't have had an impact, not after the Carolina game.

Certainly that was part of it, but we had them locked down for a quarter...so I feel Springs' presence may be a tad overrated.

Either way, doesn't change the shitty performance.

[Hog's Breath]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Certainly that was part of it, but we had them locked down for a quarter...so I feel Springs' presence may be a tad overrated.

Either way, doesn't change the shitty performance.

I could agree with that to some extent.

Makes you wonder how we stoned them in the 1st qtr and just whiffed the rest of the game.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Hog's Breath

I could agree with that to some extent.

Makes you wonder how we stoned them in the 1st qtr and just whiffed the rest of the game.

Or how we stoned them for 5 straight quarters, but have been purely awful before that and since that.

The play of the defense this year has been simply bizarre.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Hog's Breath

I voted for Campbell. But, hey, it was only his third start. I'm in no way saying he should be benched. He made newbie mistakes. Big deal. I expect him to make more. As long as he is learning from them and progresses from week to week, which I have full confidence he will, that's all I care about.

As far as blaming the defense, I don't agree with it. You can't expect the D to win every game for us. I think our offense hasn't scored more than 17 points in the last 4 games or something like that. Campbell did make some poor decisions which ultimately cost the game.

The D didn't have to win the game, but c'mon man 250 yards given up on the ground?

I'm really amazed at how some are so quick to let the D off the hook, not only in this game but all season long.

When Travis Henry ripped us for 180 all we heard was how bad Brunell was.

I really don't get it.

[NYCSkin]

My goat was the coaches.

Campbell was off but he did have poor protection at times from the O line. However, the O line performed well in the running game. The D lived up (or down?!?) to their ranking--going up against the best running team in the league. And they played without Springs--who was missed when the Falcons went at Wright/Jimoh at key times in the game. So it seems that there was enough blame to go around.

I gave it to the Skins' coaches by a hair since they were outcoached. Mora and Co. put the ball in Dunn/Norwood's gut and out of Vick's arm and waited for the Skins to make mistakes. That is the very thing the Skins' coaches should have done (not only for the first quarter but for the entire game). The game seemed to turn when Saunders called that poodle reverse to ARE in the first half. In addition, Gibbs had some dubious game management decisions.

[Redskin]

young QB's make mistakes, he just outright blew this game missing easy passes and giving away a TD. The growing process is painful for the QB but even more painful for the fan. I might be alone when I say this but if we had Mark out there today I think we would have won.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Someone will vote for him, just watch

I voted for Campbell.

Ya the D wasn't great but it's old news already - our D sucks. Considering Soft Springs was out (again) and they were facing a great rushing team, I don't think the D played that horrible.

I think Campbell had a bad game especially in the 2nd half. He couldn't handle the pressure at all. Granted the O-line pass protection wasn't great, but the Falcons were sending the house on many plays and you can only block so many guys. The QB has to make the quick read and find the open guy (Cooley) or get rid of the ball. JC looked sluggish today. I found he looked really slow dropping back and didn't show the same composure back there. And that INT he threw was huge and turned the whole tide of the game.

I'm not a JC hater or anything, but for this game he was the goat.

[Hog's Breath]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The D didn't have to win the game, but c'mon man 250 yards given up on the ground?

I'm really amazed at how some are so quick to let the D off the hook, not only in this game but all season long.

When Travis Henry ripped us for 180 all we heard was how bad Brunell was.

I really don't get it.

Yeah, 250 yds to the league's #1 rushing offense. What did you expect? I'm not saying the D is completely absolved from any blame, but we gotta put more than 14 points on the board. That only wins you games when you have a defense like the Bears.

Don't get me wrong, I love Campbell, but our passing game was terrible today. Even though we had some critical dropped passes, it wasn't good. We were not very good on third down conversions either which is normally a passing down. There was no reason we should not have scored more points than we did, IMO. Atlanta's D is nothing to write home about.

My biggest prob with our defense is that we didn't create any turnovers. THAT is not doing the O any favors.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The D didn't have to win the game, but c'mon man 250 yards given up on the ground?

I'm really amazed at how some are so quick to let the D off the hook, not only in this game but all season long.

When Travis Henry ripped us for 180 all we heard was how bad Brunell was.

I really don't get it.

I'll let the D off the hook because really we only scored 14 points...which won't win you too many NFL games. Yes the D gave up 24, but Campbell pretty much handed them 7 too. They didnt play well, but I dont think they were the sole reason why we lost, it was kinda a team effort in sucking (as ususal lol)

That being said I voted Campbell because I thought he played the worst out of anyone today. Basically he made the mistakes that were the reason we wanted him to start this year for, so that we can avoid them in the future. I'm absolutley fine with it, but I really thought his one INT was the difference in the game. Again, he made the rookie mistakes we expected him to make, I'm not mad or worried about it at all. If anything, making mistakes like that will help him in the future, and the whole reason he is playing is so we can be better in the future. If him doing that today means he wont do it in the playoffs in 2 years, then thats why we choose to start him now. I just dont want people to take this as piling on Campbell. I just thought if were picking an individuall goat, looking at just the game, I'd choose him. Although I dont think he was put in great spots either.

[MTK]

Wow, I guess our expectations of a quality defense has fallen so far that we don't even blink when they get shredded for 250 yards on the ground and instead put the blame on a QB making his 3rd start who had pressure in his face all day.

That's Redskins fans for ya.

[Big C]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Wow, I guess our expectations of a quality defense has fallen so far that we don't even blink when they get shredded for 250 yards on the ground and instead put the blame on a QB making his 3rd start who had pressure in his face all day.

That's Redskins fans for ya.

seriously we know the defense was crap. campbell was worse tho in our opinion

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Big C

seriously we know the defense was crap. campbell was worse tho in our opinion

So you had higher expectations of Campbell making his 3rd start vs our entire defense??

I'm not sure if this speaks to how bad our defense is or how great some think that Campbell is.

[Big C]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So you had higher expectations of Campbell making his 3rd start vs our entire defense??

I'm not sure if this speaks to how bad our defense is or how great some think that Campbell is.

what does this have to do with expectations? this is about this single game, not about what this may teach campbell down the line or whatever, this is about today. not about expectations.

[Citizens for 81]

Campbell made 2 mistakes, the defense got torched for 2 qrts. I don't see how Campbell was worse than the D.