03-15-2012, 01:31 PM | #31 |
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Re: How will our defense hold up next year?
Are you serious? If he wasn't getting closelined every play, he'd have 30 sacks a year and countless forced turnovers.
What the refs allow to be done to him is criminal. The only time I recall it being called was that game-ending play in Dallas. I was shocked they called it.
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03-15-2012, 01:35 PM | #32 | |
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03-15-2012, 02:01 PM | #33 | |
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I LOVED last years offseason moves. I LOVE the idea of getting younger and building through the draft, but thats not exactly what we are doing. We drafted 3 WR's last year. This offseason we signed 2 and are attempting to sign another. While WR was by no means a strength of our team it wasnt the biggest weakness either. We drafted 1 DB last year in the 7th round while at the same time letting our own guy and argubily our best corner walk. We also signed a younger Josh Wilson who was able to bring excitement to our defensive backfiled, much like Garcon is bringing to our wideout corps. In 2010 Allen, Shanahan and Haslett made a major change to our defensive scheme that turned the strength of our team into the biggest weakness, and even worse in my opinion created many more holes that needed filling. The D improved in 2011 and many of the holes that were created in the previsous year's change were filled with several mid profile FA signings along with 6 draft picks that were spent on the deffensive unit. But while the front 7 now looks and smells like a 3-4 defense lacking only a true NT, the secondary, and saftey spot in particular, has fallen apart. Meanwhile we have no draft picks until the third round to go along with our glaring needs at the RT/G positions. Hopefully we can get some late round DB's, but late round gems seem almost mythological or one year wonders when it comes to the CB and S positions. So we cant just build though the draft, were missing 1st round picks in 2013 and 2014 and only have late round picks to spend on our defensive for this year. I dont think we should break the bank on anyone but unfortunitly we can just groom our own guys.
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You obviously take issue with the fact that, we gave up 3 picks to move up to take griffen. you specifically seem to be under the beleif that, if we hadnt made the trade, we'd somehow be in a better position to improve our secondary this year. please, propose to me, a better solution for are team where we didnt give up our 2nd rounder. what would you have had us do with our 1st and 2nd round picks that would make our team better than a franchise quarterback? please. tell us. whatis your better idea?
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03-15-2012, 03:17 PM | #35 |
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Left him out. He looks like he's going to be a good player. Elite? I don't know, time will tell. We need some elite players on the defense and right now we don't have one.
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03-15-2012, 05:39 PM | #36 | |
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Relax brah. The use of our second overall pick is a foregone conclusion. My apologizes if that needs to be repeated for you in ever reference to this year's draft. Another wise man once said I like the dreams of the future better then the history of the past. I like to say, who dont? Based off of historical success of 1st round QB's and some of the questionable moves this FO has made, do i think we gave up too much for Griffin? Probably. But im not against it, nor do I take issue with it. Im indifferent on it. And im excited and as hopeful as you it will work out. If I sound like I was complaining, my bad. In my opinion forums are a place to share thoughts, form populist opinions, complain and offer praise. Unfortunately, for the time being, I am unable to point to any measurables that able me to offer praise and conviction in the management of this team. I was just trying to share my thoughts that we aint in position to build a competent secondary though the draft anytime soon. And I don’t think I said anything to imply that our secondary would be better off this year if not for already spending our second round pick. Im just saying that our secondary wont be built through the draft….. because we don’t have the draft picks to do so, nor have we used our draft picks when available to do so in the recent past. Sure we got Gomes and Thompson, and maybe theyre the next Chris Horton and Sam Shields, not sure if that’s a good thing or not though? At the end of theday the things I would have done differently don’t matter. At all. And if you would have done things exactly the same as our FO that doesn’t matter either. Whatsoever. My ideas, your ideas, and everyone else’s ideas of how we should build this team may be better, worse or the same as Allen’s, Shanahan’s, and Danny’s. But none of our ideas actually matter.
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Atogwe...nothing to see there... It has to get better from here... HTTR...RG3
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03-15-2012, 06:07 PM | #38 |
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Re: How will our defense hold up next year?
Also known as the John Beck argument.
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03-15-2012, 06:22 PM | #40 |
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There is some truth in that an improved O would bring about nice things for the D.....AND, although not SB ready this year, I do expect significant improvement in that area.
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03-15-2012, 06:32 PM | #41 |
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I hope some of these comments are being sarcastic, if not wow. This was the first year running the 3-4 defense right? They had little to no help from a terrible offense. Starting defense included a rookie OLB(Kerrigan), 2nd year ILB(Riley), rookie safety for half the season(Gomes), Reed Doughty (WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS OF DANNY WITH A HOOKER?)
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Where is that fanarchist guy when you need him?
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But I think this is the 'year of improvement' in Shanahan's offense. Would be smart to pair that with an uptick in defense and special teams as well.
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03-15-2012, 07:17 PM | #45 |
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It will be mediocre. 15th place in scoring and awful against the pass.
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