Philly pre-game

[sdskinsfan2001]

Howell needs to throw the ball. But the shitty O-line play is about more than just the sacks. The pocket fucking collapses so fast and across the line, even on pass attempts where he doesn't get sacked. Howell is having normal growing pains, but he has to do them behind a line that can't pass-block for shit. They get fucking worked repeatedly. This is a passing league. We cannot and will not win consistently unless they can magically improve or get replaced next season.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Howell needs to throw the ball. But the shitty O-line play is about more than just the sacks. The pocket fucking collapses so fast and across the line, even on pass attempts where he doesn't get sacked. Howell is having normal growing pains, but he has to do them behind a line that can't pass-block for shit. They get fucking worked repeatedly. This is a passing league. We cannot and will not win consistently unless they can magically improve or get replaced next season.

Yeah and when he’s pressured he just throws the ball all over the place , he has to just eat a sack sometimes.


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[Hoglips]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yeah and when he’s pressured he just throws the ball all over the place , he has to just eat a sack sometimes.


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Or just throw it away! Doesn't seem to be in his repertoire so far ...

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yeah and when he’s pressured he just throws the ball all over the place , he has to just eat a sack sometimes.


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He has eaten 19 so far …

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

He has eaten 19 so far …

Probably roughly 50 percent his fault. That is too many all around but he is young and at least he takes sacks trying to make something happen unlike wentz who just folded. Kid has moxie.
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[mredskins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Howell needs to throw the ball. But the shitty O-line play is about more than just the sacks. The pocket fucking collapses so fast and across the line, even on pass attempts where he doesn't get sacked. Howell is having normal growing pains, but he has to do them behind a line that can't pass-block for shit. They get fucking worked repeatedly. This is a passing league. We cannot and will not win consistently unless they can magically improve or get replaced next season.

I honestly think our pass blocking isn't horrible, our line more fails on run blocking.

Sam really holds the ball much too long, it was a knock on him coming out of NC as well. He needs to get through his progressions faster and dump it when its not there.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Through three games the O-line is basically middle of the pack:

#16 in Pass Block Win Rate - 55% / Chiefs are #1 in PBWR - 76%

#19 in Run Block Win Rate - 71% / Eagles are #1 in RBWR - 78%

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Through three games the O-line is basically middle of the pack:

#16 in Pass Block Win Rate - 55% / Chiefs are #1 in PBWR - 76%

#19 in Run Block Win Rate - 71% / Eagles are #1 in RBWR - 78%

Yeah we are "better" at pass blocking.

The line is middle of the road, its definitely serviceable.

Sam needs to get rid of the ball quicker

[Chief X_Phackter]

It really just boils down to new OC, rookie QB, and mostly new O-line personnel. It will take time before they are all on the same page, and understand what they do well (and what they don't). The biggest part though, is Sam. He just needs to get the reps and grow every week. The team's success hinges on his progress and development.

[sdskinsfan2001]

If we are the middle of the road, there are a lot of really shitty offensive lines out there then.

Although it does appear that I'm giving Sam too much of a pass in this whole matter. When I watch, it looks like the pocket is just not that great most times, but maybe it's just because Sam isn't firing that fucking pigskin at the top of his drop.

Still think we need to upgrade the whole unit outside of maybe Cosmi.

[Chico23231]

We should have been running the ball more since game 1. Oline looks to be a better run blocking than pass pro.

Sam certainly is responsible for sacks and would say it’s fifty-fifty.

I thought EB wasn’t very good last Sunday and the game plan wasn’t good at all.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

We should have been running the ball more since game 1. Oline looks to be a better run blocking than pass pro.

Sam certainly is responsible for sacks and would say it’s fifty-fifty.

I thought EB wasn’t very good last Sunday and the game plan wasn’t good at all.

EB needs to make some sound changes also and go with our strengths. Last Sunday was a horrendous offensive performance. It's not a given he's back next year either with new ownership.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

EB needs to make some sound changes also and go with our strengths. Last Sunday was a horrendous offensive performance. It's not a given he's back next year either with new ownership.

That is my thought. Some have been crowning EB as RR's successor since he got here, but if this offense doesn't really improve, or it regresses under his charge, he may have a tough time finding an OC job somewhere, let alone a HC job.

That said, it's early and there are bound to be 'growing pains' for this offensive unit that has played only three games together so far. Even with a loss to Philly, it is very conceivable for this team to be 5-2 after seven games. And if we're trending up by then - even better.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

That is my thought. Some have been crowning EB as RR's successor since he got here, but if this offense doesn't really improve, or it regresses under his charge, he may have a tough time finding an OC job somewhere, let alone a HC job.

That said, it's early and there are bound to be 'growing pains' for this offensive unit that has played only three games together so far. Even with a loss to Philly, it is very conceivable for this team to be 5-2 after seven games. And if we're trending up by then - even better.

I was surprised when EB left KC. He literally left a team creating a dynasty with arguably the best qb/player in the league, best tight end, and the best offensive mind. Reid never got enough credit for how good he was in Philly and tolerated TO for awhile. Him leaving KC for Washington was a risk. Now, things are getting real while KC will continue to throttle defenses without him.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I know it is a SSS but the fact the pass run ratio is basically the same as Mahomes is absurd