The Sam Howell Thread

Chico23231 · 10-16-2023, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

seriously i swear half the people on here are such dreamers; when the hot girl in high school made accidently eye contact with them they thought they were going be prom dates

i say sam howells ceiling is a andy dalton clone

Mredskins you are such a fuckin dickhead

Let us fuckin enjoy this for a second.

Chico23231 · 10-16-2023, 08:39 PM

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player

Howell stats very solid among other QBs

punch it in · 10-16-2023, 09:53 PM

“With 109 yards through the air in the first half on Sunday, Howell became the passing yards leader in franchise history for the Commanders through seven starts, the team announced. “

4-3 as a starter on a team whose defense has underperformed for most of those starts and an absolutely sub par oline.

Id definitely go to the prom with that mother fucker.

This team has mad holes
TE
Run game
Oline
LB
HC
DC
Our rookie quarterback (7 games, 6 with an actual offseason as the number 1) is definitely on the list of positives. It is mind numbing after decades of piss poor revolving door quarterback play that Sam is not a breath of fresh air to some people.

Meks · 10-16-2023, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

seriously i swear half the people on here are such dreamers; when the hot girl in high school made accidently eye contact with them they thought they were going be prom dates

i say sam howells ceiling is a andy dalton clone

Maybe some, but winners, winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

Sam: Carla was the prom queen.

Give the kid time ya Debbie downer.. and please... give em more time than our o line does

SFREDSKIN · 10-16-2023, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player

Howell stats very solid among other QBs

But he sucks!! Those are fake numbers!! Carson Wentz is hands down a better QB, blah, blah, fucking blah!!!

Meks · 10-16-2023, 10:42 PM

The stats won't ever matter til we have a real team and real leadership that isn't still coaching a team in the early 2000s.

Praying for that for next year and keeping Sam to see what he and this team can be capable with some nice additions and a better staff. The wins are all that matters but even commenting on his "ceiling" is just baseless chatter of a disgruntled fan. Can't blame the frustration but will blame the finger pointing b/c it's in the wrong direction and way premature, like those prom plans that he prolly spent a week planning only to get shut down. Like I said, disgruntled 🤷

SFREDSKIN · 10-16-2023, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Meks

The stats won't ever matter til we have a real team and real leadership that isn't still coaching a team in the early 2000s.

Praying for that for next year and keeping Sam to see what he and this team can be capable with some nice additions and a better staff. The wins are all that matters but even commenting on his "ceiling" is just baseless chatter of a disgruntled fan. Can't blame the frustration but will blame the finger pointing b/c it's in the wrong direction and way premature, like those prom plans that he prolly spent a week planning only to get shut down. Like I said, disgruntled 🤷

You are throwing in the towel for this year? How about a little faith? This isn’t the 0-6 panthers.

Meks · 10-16-2023, 11:26 PM

Nah I don't quit until it's mathematical man lol, think you're just missing or I wasn't clear enough in the way of this being directed at the previous Andy dalton ceiling comment. Less to do with this season but also including some thoughts on it.

calia · 10-17-2023, 01:55 AM

I just hope Sam survives. Way too many sacks. There have been some good QBs who were drilled too often and never really recovered and had good careers or whose promising careers were cut short.

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AnonEmouse · 10-17-2023, 04:15 AM

I'm not wearing rose tinted glasses when I say this; for the first time in years, early season form suggests QB is not our biggest problem. Hell, it might not be a problem at all. We have so many bigger problems, starting and almost ending with the coaching staff. OL, LB and TE are next. If those had been fixed in the offseason we might be as good as 5-1, if they get fixed this offseason we could be division favourites next year.

mredskins · 10-17-2023, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player

Howell stats very solid among other QBs

The filter on that web page was set to total yards , which again is skewed by the CHI game , when the Bears sat in prevent and Sam throw nearly 400 meaningless yards in a blow out.

Click QBR he is ranked 20th which is probably about right , he is the 20th best QB out of 32.

He is not bad but he is not anything special either to this point.

Remember next year most likely a whole new coaching. Is that coaching staff really going to want to hook their wagon to SH?

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mredskins · 10-17-2023, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Mredskins you are such a fuckin dickhead

Let us fuckin enjoy this for a second.

I don’t resort to name calling on here but fine sorry if a difference in opinion makes me a fucking dickhead.

When a debate is lost , slander is the tool of the loser

I am not sure what everyone is enjoying ? You have the 20th best QB by ESPN QBR rating system out of 32.

Sorry I am not heading down to the Sam Howell celebration parade on Pennsylvania Ave to celebrate his 20th place ranking.

HTTR · 10-17-2023, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

I am not sure what everyone is enjoying ? You have the 20th best QB by ESPN QBR rating system out of 32.

Where do we rank on play calling? Where on TE route running? Where on OL protection? Where on game preparation by the HC?

Just curious.

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punch it in · 10-17-2023, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

I don’t resort to name calling on here but fine sorry if a difference in opinion makes me a fucking dickhead.

When a debate is lost , slander is the tool of the loser

I am not sure what everyone is enjoying ? You have the 20th best QB by ESPN QBR rating system out of 32.

Sorry I am not heading down to the Sam Howell celebration parade on Pennsylvania Ave to celebrate his 20th place ranking.

It is his 7th game. Do you think there is a chance that in year two or three he could be top 10 like he is in completion percentage or yards? Or are those ratings by espn meaningless?

Take a look at the roughly 30 different starting quarterbacks we have trotted out there over the last 20 years and see where they ranked in those categories over their first 7 games. You will feel better.

Chico23231 · 10-17-2023, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mredskins

I don’t resort to name calling on here but fine sorry if a difference in opinion makes me a fucking dickhead.

When a debate is lost , slander is the tool of the loser

I am not sure what everyone is enjoying ? You have the 20th best QB by ESPN QBR rating system out of 32.

Sorry I am not heading down to the Sam Howell celebration parade on Pennsylvania Ave to celebrate his 20th place ranking.

I was typing that tongue in cheek while laughing at your “piss in everyone bowl of cornflakes” post. The red rifle? Seriously?

While QBR is a good metric, his passer rating is solid. His yards per attempt, tds are strong.

Also, his run threat and off script abilities are in-line with todays QB prototype which meets the needs when facing a more athletic, faster defenses. This isn’t Andy Dalton standing tall in the pocket.

He passes the eye test and I think EB offense is a fit for him.

Let him grow and please get Oline in the offseason

Don’t get mad when I call out some trolling and hatin

10-16-2023, 08:39 PM	#422
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 33,982	Re: The Sam Howell Thread https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player Howell stats very solid among other QBs __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

10-16-2023, 09:53 PM	#423
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 52 Posts: 23,062	The Sam Howell Thread “With 109 yards through the air in the first half on Sunday, Howell became the passing yards leader in franchise history for the Commanders through seven starts, the team announced. “ 4-3 as a starter on a team whose defense has underperformed for most of those starts and an absolutely sub par oline. Id definitely go to the prom with that mother fucker. This team has mad holes TE Run game Oline LB HC DC Our rookie quarterback (7 games, 6 with an actual offseason as the number 1) is definitely on the list of positives. It is mind numbing after decades of piss poor revolving door quarterback play that Sam is not a breath of fresh air to some people.

10-16-2023, 10:42 PM	#426
Meks Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 38 Posts: 5,413	Re: The Sam Howell Thread The stats won't ever matter til we have a real team and real leadership that isn't still coaching a team in the early 2000s. Praying for that for next year and keeping Sam to see what he and this team can be capable with some nice additions and a better staff. The wins are all that matters but even commenting on his "ceiling" is just baseless chatter of a disgruntled fan. Can't blame the frustration but will blame the finger pointing b/c it's in the wrong direction and way premature, like those prom plans that he prolly spent a week planning only to get shut down. Like I said, disgruntled 🤷 __________________ R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

10-16-2023, 11:26 PM	#428
Meks Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 38 Posts: 5,413	Re: The Sam Howell Thread Nah I don't quit until it's mathematical man lol, think you're just missing or I wasn't clear enough in the way of this being directed at the previous Andy dalton ceiling comment. Less to do with this season but also including some thoughts on it. __________________ R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

10-17-2023, 01:55 AM	#429
calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 56 Posts: 3,371	Re: The Sam Howell Thread I just hope Sam survives. Way too many sacks. There have been some good QBs who were drilled too often and never really recovered and had good careers or whose promising careers were cut short. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Coach, what do you think of your team's execution?" "I'm all for it." -- Coach McKay

10-17-2023, 04:15 AM	#430
AnonEmouse The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 58 Posts: 2,228	Re: The Sam Howell Thread I'm not wearing rose tinted glasses when I say this; for the first time in years, early season form suggests QB is not our biggest problem. Hell, it might not be a problem at all. We have so many bigger problems, starting and almost ending with the coaching staff. OL, LB and TE are next. If those had been fixed in the offseason we might be as good as 5-1, if they get fixed this offseason we could be division favourites next year.

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