Redskins Offseason Thread

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If I'm looking at the NFCE right now without having my homer shades on, I see it as

1. PHI
2. WSH
3. DAL
4. NYG.


The eagles are champs and had a great O/S adding more talent to an already good roster.

We have loaded up on talent for AS, Burner at WR, All purpose RB , added OL help.
Addressed a huge need on the DL. Our only negative was losing Fuller.

Dallas has lost their top 2 targets from the last 5 years... I don't care who you are, that will hurt.. Dak isn't good enough yet to carry a REC corp.

The Giants added Barkley yes but Eli is still on the decline and they still have big ?'s on the OL. Plus the WR's not named Odell are all avg at best guys. Losing JPP will hurt too.

I doubt the Eagles repeat, but they are first and haven't hurt themselves enough this offseason to definitively lower them.

I think the Giants and Skins will fight for 2nd. I disagree about the Giants having big questions on their oline. Solder, Hernandez are huge upgrades, and having Barkley as a running threat should slow the pass rush.

I would be shocked if Dallas finishes above .500 as of now.

[skinsfaninok]

Bruce Allen Interested In Returning To Raiders? | NFLTradeRumors.co

I saw Florio say something about this possibility too.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Bruce Allen Interested In Returning To Raiders? | NFLTradeRumors.co

I saw Florio say something about this possibility too.

I will believe it when I see it. But, I won't be upset if this does happen.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Bruce Allen Interested In Returning To Raiders? | NFLTradeRumors.co

I saw Florio say something about this possibility too.

Sounds like Allen wants a pay raise from Snyder.

[skinsfaninok]

I'm a BA fan as far as player evaluations go, the other non sense like "Kurt" we could do without

[skinsfaninok]

Mcclain released

https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/4/30/...errell-mcclain

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I'm a BA fan as far as player evaluations go, the other non sense like "Kurt" we could do without

2017 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

1 17 Jonathan Allen DE Alabama
2 49 Ryan Anderson LB Alabama
3 81 Fabian Moreau CB UCLA
4 114 Samaje Perine RB Oklahoma
4 123 Montae Nicholson SAF Michigan State
5 154 Jeremy Sprinkle TE Arkansas
6 209 Robert Davis WR Georgia State
6 199 Chase Roullier C Wyoming
7 230 Josh Harvey-Clemons SAF Louisville
7 235 Joshua Holsey CB Auburn
2016 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 22 Josh Doctson WR Texas Christian
2 53 Su'a Cravens LB USC
3 84 Kendall Fuller CB Virginia Tech
5 152 Matthew Ioannidis DT Temple
6 187 Nate Sudfeld QB Indiana
7 232 Steven Daniels ILB Boston College
7 242 Keith Marshall RB Georgia

2015 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

1 5 Brandon Scherff T Iowa
2 38 Preston Smith DE Mississippi State
3 95 Matt Jones RB Florida
4 105 Jamison Crowder WR Duke
4 112 Arie Kouandjio G Alabama
5 141 Martrell Spaight LB Arkansas
6 181 Kyshoen Jarrett SAF Virginia Tech
6 182 Tevin Mitchel CB Arkansas
6 187 Evan Spencer WR Ohio State
7 222 Austin Reiter C South Florida

2014 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

2 47 Trent Murphy DE Stanford
3 66 Morgan Moses T Virginia
3 78 Spencer Long G Nebraska
4 102 Bashaud Breeland CB Clemson
5 142 Ryan Grant WR Tulane
6 186 Lache Seastrunk RB Baylor
7 217 Ted Bolser TE Indiana
7 228 Zach Hocker K Arkansas

2013 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

2 51 David Amerson FS North Carolina State
3 85 Jordan Reed TE Florida
4 119 Phillip Thomas SS Fresno State
5 154 Chris Thompson RB Florida State
5 162 Brandon Jenkins LB Florida State
6 191 Bacarri Rambo SS Georgia
7 228 Jawan Jamison RB Rutgers

2012 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

1 2 Robert Griffin QB Baylor
3 71 Josh Leribeus G Southern Methodist
4 102 Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State
4 119 Keenan Robinson LB Texas
5 141 Adam Gettis G Iowa
6 173 Alfred Morris RB Florida Atlantic
6 193 Tom Compton T South Dakota
7 213 Richard Crawford CB Southern Methodist
7 217 Jordan Bernstine CB Iowa

2011 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

1 16 Ryan Kerrigan LB Purdue
2 41 Jarvis Jenkins DE Clemson
3 79 Leonard Hankerson WR Miami (Fla.)
4 105 Roy Helu RB Nebraska
5 146 DeJon Gomes DB Nebraska
5 155 Niles Paul WR Nebraska
6 177 Evan Royster RB Penn State
6 178 Aldrick Robinson WR Southern Methodist
7 213 Brandyn Thompson DB Boise State
7 217 Maurice Hurt G Florida
7 224 Markus White LB Florida State
7 253 Chris Neild NT West Virginia

2010 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 4 Trent Williams T Oklahoma
4 103 Perry Riley LB LSU
6 174 Dennis Morris TE Louisiana Tech
7 219 Terrence Austin WR UCLA
7 229 Erik Cook C New Mexico
7 231 Selvish Capers T West Virginia

2009 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 13 Brian Orakpo DE Texas
3 80 Kevin Barnes DB Maryland
5 158 Cody Glenn LB Nebraska
6 186 Robert Henson LB Texas Christian
7 221 Eddie Williams FB Idaho
7 243 Marko Mitchell WR Nevada-Reno


Speaking of Bruce Allen's talent evaluations, the guys in bold are the ones that are still with the team, either as starters or some backup role (and forgive me if I have missed a name or two.) The guys in red are the ones I know of still playing in the league and either starting for another team or have some amount of playing time. The rest are guys - I'm assuming are no longer in the league, or maybe a practice squad guy or whatever. I'm not counting last year's draft, because I think it's too soon to make a proper judgement on that draft.

Assuming it takes about three years to really judge if your draft was a winner or not, we're seeing that since Allen came to the team and up to 2014 - we've had about 5 players to stick. You could also include players that we have just let go in free agency of this offseason, such as Niles Paul, Kirk Cousins, Trent Murphy, and Breeshaud Breeland. We've had a couple 5th rounders to turn out pretty good, a few third rounders. For a few of those seasons, we didn't have a number one draft pick. Looks like Allen was good around the third round.

Overall, I'm not sure I would say I'm THAT big of a fan of his talent evaluations. He had heavy input from Mike Shanahan in a few of those drafts, and Scot McCloughan for a few of those drafts as well. Williams has had some input as well. Maybe I'm wrong not to give Allen as much credit as he deserves, but I don't see how he has been that great with talent evaluations.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Mcclain released

https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/4/30/...errell-mcclain

This is good news!
Glad they realized they made a mistake with this guy and dumped him sooner than later.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by metalskins

2017 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

1 17 Jonathan Allen DE Alabama
2 49 Ryan Anderson LB Alabama
3 81 Fabian Moreau CB UCLA
4 114 Samaje Perine RB Oklahoma
4 123 Montae Nicholson SAF Michigan State
5 154 Jeremy Sprinkle TE Arkansas
6 209 Robert Davis WR Georgia State
6 199 Chase Roullier C Wyoming
7 230 Josh Harvey-Clemons SAF Louisville
7 235 Joshua Holsey CB Auburn
2016 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 22 Josh Doctson WR Texas Christian
2 53 Su'a Cravens LB USC
3 84 Kendall Fuller CB Virginia Tech
5 152 Matthew Ioannidis DT Temple
6 187 Nate Sudfeld QB Indiana
7 232 Steven Daniels ILB Boston College
7 242 Keith Marshall RB Georgia

2015 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

1 5 Brandon Scherff T Iowa
2 38 Preston Smith DE Mississippi State
3 95 Matt Jones RB Florida
4 105 Jamison Crowder WR Duke
4 112 Arie Kouandjio G Alabama
5 141 Martrell Spaight LB Arkansas
6 181 Kyshoen Jarrett SAF Virginia Tech
6 182 Tevin Mitchel CB Arkansas
6 187 Evan Spencer WR Ohio State
7 222 Austin Reiter C South Florida

2014 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

2 47 Trent Murphy DE Stanford
3 66 Morgan Moses T Virginia
3 78 Spencer Long G Nebraska
4 102 Bashaud Breeland CB Clemson
5 142 Ryan Grant WR Tulane
6 186 Lache Seastrunk RB Baylor
7 217 Ted Bolser TE Indiana
7 228 Zach Hocker K Arkansas

2013 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

2 51 David Amerson FS North Carolina State
3 85 Jordan Reed TE Florida
4 119 Phillip Thomas SS Fresno State
5 154 Chris Thompson RB Florida State
5 162 Brandon Jenkins LB Florida State
6 191 Bacarri Rambo SS Georgia
7 228 Jawan Jamison RB Rutgers

2012 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

1 2 Robert Griffin QB Baylor
3 71 Josh Leribeus G Southern Methodist
4 102 Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State
4 119 Keenan Robinson LB Texas
5 141 Adam Gettis G Iowa
6 173 Alfred Morris RB Florida Atlantic
6 193 Tom Compton T South Dakota
7 213 Richard Crawford CB Southern Methodist
7 217 Jordan Bernstine CB Iowa

2011 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

1 16 Ryan Kerrigan LB Purdue
2 41 Jarvis Jenkins DE Clemson
3 79 Leonard Hankerson WR Miami (Fla.)
4 105 Roy Helu RB Nebraska
5 146 DeJon Gomes DB Nebraska
5 155 Niles Paul WR Nebraska
6 177 Evan Royster RB Penn State
6 178 Aldrick Robinson WR Southern Methodist
7 213 Brandyn Thompson DB Boise State
7 217 Maurice Hurt G Florida
7 224 Markus White LB Florida State
7 253 Chris Neild NT West Virginia

2010 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 4 Trent Williams T Oklahoma
4 103 Perry Riley LB LSU
6 174 Dennis Morris TE Louisiana Tech
7 219 Terrence Austin WR UCLA
7 229 Erik Cook C New Mexico
7 231 Selvish Capers T West Virginia

2009 - Washington Redskins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 13 Brian Orakpo DE Texas
3 80 Kevin Barnes DB Maryland
5 158 Cody Glenn LB Nebraska
6 186 Robert Henson LB Texas Christian
7 221 Eddie Williams FB Idaho
7 243 Marko Mitchell WR Nevada-Reno


Speaking of Bruce Allen's talent evaluations, the guys in bold are the ones that are still with the team, either as starters or some backup role (and forgive me if I have missed a name or two.) The guys in red are the ones I know of still playing in the league and either starting for another team or have some amount of playing time. The rest are guys - I'm assuming are no longer in the league, or maybe a practice squad guy or whatever. I'm not counting last year's draft, because I think it's too soon to make a proper judgement on that draft.

Assuming it takes about three years to really judge if your draft was a winner or not, we're seeing that since Allen came to the team and up to 2014 - we've had about 5 players to stick. You could also include players that we have just let go in free agency of this offseason, such as Niles Paul, Kirk Cousins, Trent Murphy, and Breeshaud Breeland. We've had a couple 5th rounders to turn out pretty good, a few third rounders. For a few of those seasons, we didn't have a number one draft pick. Looks like Allen was good around the third round.

Overall, I'm not sure I would say I'm THAT big of a fan of his talent evaluations. He had heavy input from Mike Shanahan in a few of those drafts, and Scot McCloughan for a few of those drafts as well. Williams has had some input as well. Maybe I'm wrong not to give Allen as much credit as he deserves, but I don't see how he has been that great with talent evaluations.

Good write up man, I think its def a collective group effort.. Not all goes to BA but in general since he's been the GM our roster has had some very good draft picks and talent come here. Trent of course was the home run hit but KC wasn't far from a HR as well. If you look at this list, it shows a pretty consistent level of 1 and 2 round choices that have immediate impact. Payne and Guice should continue this trend.

[DYoungJelly]

McClain just got cut?

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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

McClain just got cut?

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coulda spent that money on a Guard....damn it. what a waste

[WillH]

https://twitter.com/ScouTurf/status/...368132096?s=19

Cool chart with player grades for whole team.

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[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

McClain just got cut?

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Cap savings? $1 million or more?

[DYoungJelly]

Francis was cut too.

https://riggosrag.com/2018/04/30/rep...d-a-j-francis/

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Francis was cut too.

https://riggosrag.com/2018/04/30/rep...d-a-j-francis/

Knew it was coming