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Old 02-01-2018, 10:45 AM   #1
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Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith

Alex Smith is our QB, I could honestly care less about all the drama that came before. Bring on free agency and the draft.
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:51 AM   #2
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Reading this whole thread you would think we were constantly going deep into the playoffs and we let our qb go for no reason. Our record has got worse 3 consecutive years, and Kirk was part of that. We were 7-9 this year including 0-2 against Cowboys. And he had us over a barrel. No crying over spilled milk. The team made a preemptive move early in the off-season and got a proven starting QB.

Let's see how free agency and the draft plays out. We have a chance to add/keep a lot of talent.

I'm waiting for the Zach Brown re-signed story to hit the news.
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Ultimately, Cousins wasn't impressed with the operation. He just wanted to play somewhere else. The only time he was ever open to resigning was after the 2015 season, but I can't say I blame McC and Allen for wanting to see more before committing.

After that point, Cousins was never again interested in negotiating a long term deal with us. Everything he said in interviews was lip service. Actions speak louder than words, and he never countered a single offer the Redskins made. That tells you all you need to know.

He. Didn't. Want. To. Be. A. Redskin.

Just say goodbye and move on.
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:55 AM   #4
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Ultimately, Cousins wasn't impressed with the operation. He just wanted to play somewhere else. The only time he was ever open to resigning was after the 2015 season, but I can't say I blame McC and Allen for wanting to see more before committing.

After that point, Cousins was never again interested in negotiating a long term deal with us. Everything he said in interviews was lip service. Actions speak louder than words, and he never countered a single offer the Redskins made. That tells you all you need to know.

He. Didn't. Want. To. Be. A. Redskin.

Just say goodbye and move on.
This is true. There were probably numerous other things behind the scenes that we'll never know about. I've moved on from Cousins, but not from giving up the draft pick and Fuller. I'm still pissed about that and will be for a while.
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:50 AM   #5
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Ultimately, Cousins wasn't impressed with the operation. He just wanted to play somewhere else. The only time he was ever open to resigning was after the 2015 season, but I can't say I blame McC and Allen for wanting to see more before committing.

After that point, Cousins was never again interested in negotiating a long term deal with us. Everything he said in interviews was lip service. Actions speak louder than words, and he never countered a single offer the Redskins made. That tells you all you need to know.

He. Didn't. Want. To. Be. A. Redskin.

Just say goodbye and move on.
I agree with all of this, and I still have a lot of conflicting emotions and frustrations about the whole situation.

On one hand, I am so fucking disappointed in Kirk. He had the talent to make this a really good franchise if he wanted to build something here, but ultimately he chose himself. I don't even mean that in a judgmental way, it's just a reality, and it's incredibly fucking disappointing as a fan. He was supposed to be the hero, the Phoenix that rose from the ashes of the RG3 cataclysm. Instead, for whatever reason, he couldn't stick it out and try to make this organization better; he instead kind of went on autopilot and focused on his own development and hurt the team while he waited it out. And in the meantime, instead of requesting a trade last year or making it clear he didn't want to be here, he played us all for a year making us think the FO didn't make a reasonable starting offer, only to say it want true after the season, (apparently off the record he said that at some point after the initial offer the Redskins were supposed to send an updated offer, but they sent him the same offer again). Either way, he didn't try to stay and make things work here and he ate up a ton of salary cap for two years and padded his stats (hyperbole perhaps) so he could get paid. I guess God told him last year, this isn't the right place, but get what you can out of them on your way out, Jesus loves capitalists. Maybe it was the right decision for him and his career, but as a fan, it's kind of a slap in the face. Good luck with the next coaching staff and FO, maybe everything will be just right for you so that you can have a peace, and then maybe your ass can step up and win when it counts. But I hope you don't. I really really hope you don't. Whatever team you're on next year is instantly right under the Cowboys for me.

On the other hand, what is it that drove this kid away? Is it a personality or philosophy mismatch? Organizational incompetence? Dysfunctional culture? I don't think it was just money or disagreement about what he's worth, it could be I guess, but there seems to be more to it than that.

I hope there is some inward reflection on that at Redskins Park. I wish they'd have an exit interview and try to at least consider his perspective on why it failed. I don't see them doing this, and it seems like arrogance to me. It's what you do if you think your employee was the problem and good riddance. IMO, even if it's just a bad fit or they are disruptive, it is better to understand why it happened. It's good data to know. The reports that they haven't spoken are concerning for a number of reasons, but I don't necessarily believe it. If it's true though, then it ain't just about philosophy. If it was just business, then you'd have to imagine they have him in before they part ways. We'll see...

Oh, and Alex Smith, I hope you like us buddy. We're a difficult fan base and media market, we're emotional and skeptical. Our FO can be insufferable, and the head coach is tough on QBs, but dude you got paid, this is your last shot at building a winner. I hope you can just put all the noise aside, embrace this franchise with all its flaws, and put your whole heart and soul into making the Redskins great again. We're just off of a bad breakup though, so give us time, but if you bring us success, you will be loved here, especially if you help also groom the future. Even if you never get past the second round of the playoffs, we will always love you if you leave a dynasty in your wake. HTTR.


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Old 02-01-2018, 01:10 PM   #6
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I agree with all of this, and I still have a lot of conflicting emotions and frustrations about the whole situation.

On one hand, I am so fucking disappointed in Kirk. He had the talent to make this a really good franchise if he wanted to build something here, but ultimately he chose himself. I don't even mean that in a judgmental way, it's just a reality, and it's incredibly fucking disappointing as a fan. He was supposed to be the hero, the Phoenix that rose from the ashes of the RG3 cataclysm. Instead, for whatever reason, he couldn't stick it out and try to make this organization better; he instead kind of went on autopilot and focused on his own development and hurt the team while he waited it out. And in the meantime, instead of requesting a trade last year or making it clear he didn't want to be here, he played us all for a year making us think the FO didn't make a reasonable starting offer, only to say it want true after the season, (apparently off the record he said that at some point after the initial offer the Redskins were supposed to send an updated offer, but they sent him the same offer again). Either way, he didn't try to stay and make things work here and he ate up a ton of salary cap for two years and padded his stats (hyperbole perhaps) so he could get paid. I guess God told him last year, this isn't the right place, but get what you can out of them on your way out, Jesus loves capitalists. Maybe it was the right decision for him and his career, but as a fan, it's kind of a slap in the face. Good luck with the next coaching staff and FO, maybe everything will be just right for you so that you can have a peace, and then maybe your ass can step up and win when it counts. But I hope you don't. I really really hope you don't. Whatever team you're on next year is instantly right under the Cowboys for me.

On the other hand, what is it that drove this kid away? Is it a personality or philosophy mismatch? Organizational incompetence? Dysfunctional culture? I don't think it was just money or disagreement about what he's worth, it could be I guess, but there seems to be more to it than that.

I hope there is some inward reflection on that at Redskins Park. I wish they'd have an exit interview and try to at least consider his perspective on why it failed. I don't see them doing this, and it seems like arrogance to me. It's what you do if you think your employee was the problem and good riddance. IMO, even if it's just a bad fit or they are disruptive, it is better to understand why it happened. It's good data to know. The reports that they haven't spoken are concerning for a number of reasons, but I don't necessarily believe it. If it's true though, then it ain't just about philosophy. If it was just business, then you'd have to imagine they have him in before they part ways. We'll see...

Oh, and Alex Smith, I hope you like us buddy. We're a difficult fan base and media market, we're emotional and skeptical. Our FO can be insufferable, and the head coach is tough on QBs, but dude you got paid, this is your last shot at building a winner. I hope you can just put all the noise aside, embrace this franchise with all its flaws, and put your whole heart and soul into making the Redskins great again. We're just off of a bad breakup though, so give us time, but if you bring us success, you will be loved here, especially if you help also groom the future. Even if you never get past the second round of the playoffs, we will always love you if you leave a dynasty in your wake. HTTR.


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Old 02-01-2018, 10:59 AM   #7
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Can I throw out a different (slightly) take on this.

How many Skins fans remember letting Brad Johnson go at age 32, then he went to Tampa Bay and at age 34, won the Superbowl.

I am not guaranteeing AS will win a SB with us, but I think we have the opportunity to be on the right side of that type of transaction this time, and with the rules that protect QB's we have every reason to expect that AS can play for most if not all of his extension.
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Can I throw out a different (slightly) take on this.

How many Skins fans remember letting Brad Johnson go at age 32, then he went to Tampa Bay and at age 34, won the Superbowl.

I am not guaranteeing AS will win a SB with us, but I think we have the opportunity to be on the right side of that type of transaction this time, and with the rules that protect QB's we have every reason to expect that AS can play for most if not all of his extension.
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:03 AM   #9
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No matter how wadded my panties were, 44 million would turn that shit into straight satin. Cousins always came of as a baby to me about the whole thing. And all he said were generic statements about being wanted and shit. I won't miss his butthurt.

If Alex can play well for 2 seasons and we pick a QB next year to take over in year 3 that be perfect. Or if Alex is still balling in year 3 the young guy can learn for a couple seasons, that would also be perfect. This has worked out well in the past in the NFL. And I don't see him falling off in 2 years, he keeps himself in good shape.
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Old 02-01-2018, 06:36 PM   #11
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In 2019 or 2020 Smith could be on the bench or not starting. It will be the same thing all over again in SF and KC. We'll draft a young QB and after winning 6-9 games w/Smith the fan base will grow impatient and want to see the young guy. Meanwhile Fuller will be in the prime of his career.
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In 2019 or 2020 Smith could be on the bench or not starting. It will be the same thing all over again in SF and KC. We'll draft a young QB and after winning 6-9 games w/Smith the fan base will grow impatient and want to see the young guy. Meanwhile Fuller will be in the prime of his career.
Smith will win a SB in DC. Let's make a friendly bet

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Trades ever. I like Alex Smith and he won’t win anything us, couldn’t do it with the chiefs.
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are you trolling? because if he couldnt get it done in KC, with all of that offensive fire power they had, it aint happening here
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:59 AM   #15
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You might want to try and make a bet that you at least have a chance at. lol.
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