Draft talk rounds 4-7

[Gtothearry]

I'm suddenly excited about our D. Orakpo, Carriker, Crawford, Hall & Wilson combined with Merriweather & Thomas/Rambo. Plus, I was starting to like Bernestine as well.

Definite upgrades over Madieu which will help our DB's dramatically plus our pass rush will be improved with Rak, Carriker & B. Jenkins.

I don't feel like I'm drinking kool-aid either.We could end up being really good next year if the OL stays healthy.

[Dirtbag59]

Eagles are a HUGE wild card. I'm hoping that Chip Kelly becomes the next Spurrier while Barkley, at least in Philly, ends up being the next Leinart-Sanchez-Booty-Palmer post injury. Could easily go either way. In Philly he will have bookend tackles, receivers, a running back, and an offensive minded coach, basically a lot of what he had his Junior year at USC.

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Royster didn't do much at all last year IMO.

People were saying the same thing last year with Morris.

At most positions, particularly in the past couple years at WR, I've thought that the emphasis on 'competition' where they brought in as many bodies as they could find was a waste of valuable reps, especially for younger guys we needed to focus on developing.

However given Shannys history at finding RB's I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. And it's like you said, a lot of us, myself included, were saying similar stuff about Morris last year. Personally I like Jamison - Rutgers more then Thompson - FSU.

Ironcially I think any RB that gets drafted by Shanahan is in a great situation. They either make the team and get a chance to become the next over-achiever or if they get cut you have other teams more willing to look at them because, well basically Shanny saw something in them.

I think virtually every ex-Shanahan running back that didn't retire right away got a second chance elsewhere after leaving the Broncos or Redskins. I mean does anyone think Keiland Williams would have gotten a chance to play for the Lions if he hadn't been a Shanahan RB?

[RGIII]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL, yeah right , you think and INT is going to bother Eli, really?

If he hadn't thrown the INT to Rob Jackson he may have been playing for another ring :-P

[RGIII]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Reed I think fits more what we want to be than what we are.

I think that consistent with what we've done over the last few years, the Redskins have given draft value early, and gotten it late, if that makes sense. I think the Redskins are just typically very picky with who they get early in the draft, but later in the draft, they open it up a lot and typically get a lot of value.

I disagree. Trade for Fred Davis looming...

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by RGIII

I disagree. Trade for Fred Davis looming...

Edit: Egg on face. Rewatched the video again. Realized he didn't throw the bottle at the woman. Not his finest hour and certainly not acceptable but a world of difference between throwing glass at someones face and spilling a beer on them.

Welcome back Fred Davis to Dirtabag's approved Redskins. Get well soon dude. lol.

[RGIII]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I'd personally love that. Ever since seeing that video of him in the bar I've really soured on him.

I realize not everyones a choir boy/boy scout/saint/etc going out to do meals on wheels delivery and reading to the blind when they're not practicing or watching film, but inflicting physical, unprovoked harm against women, especially in a case where there was clearly no need for self-defense, is just unacceptable.

It'll just be a business decision. That's all. If and when it happens.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by RGIII

Where's Cult'? Give us the round by round breakdown and priority UDRFAs.

The UDRFAS that appear to be available are:

QB:
Tyler Bray
Matt Scott
Marquis Gray (TE)
Jordan Rodgers (Aaron's brother)

RB/FB:
Zach Line
Ray Graham
Stephon Jefferson (Lead Nevada in all time rushing after 3 seasons)
Miguel Maysonett
Onterio McCaleb (fasts back in the draft)
Montell Harris (all time leading rusher at BC)
DJ Harper (speedy back from Boise St)

TE
Phillip Lutzenkirchen
Ryan Otten
Joesph Fauria
Jake Stoneburner
Jack Doyle
Ben Cotton

WR
Da'Rick Rogers
Connor Vernon
Brandon Kaufman
Marcus Davis
TJ Moe
Alec Lemon
Lanear Sampson (RG3's teammate at Baylor)
Sam McGuffie
Zach Rogers
Jasper Collins
Reggie Dunn (all american Return Man)
Russell Shepard

OL
Luke Marquardt
Xavier Nixon
Alvin Bailey
Chris Faulk
Dalton Freeman
John Wetzel
Omoregi Uzzi
Braxston Cave
James Ferentz
Joe Madsen
Mike Golic Jr

DL
Corey Grissom
Anthony McCloud
Brent Russell (the man-bear-pig)
Kwame Geathers (NFL bloodlines)
Anthyony Reshard White
Baker Steinkuhler
Damion Square
TJ Barnes (6'6 384)
Lawrence Okoye (the England track guy who is 6'6 304)

LB
Chase Thomas
Kevin Riddick
Keith Pough
Wes Horton
Cameron Meredith
Travis Johnson
Bruce Taylor
Kenny Tate
Travis Long

CB
Nickell Robey
Adrian Brushell
Josh Johnson
Greg Reid (return man as well)
Johnny Adams
Nigel Malone
Sheldon Price (6'2)
Melvin White (6'1)
Travis Howard
Mike Edwards
Aaron Hester (6'2)
Rashaan Melvin (6'2)
Terrence Brown (6'1)
DeMontre Hurst

S
Tony Jefferson
Robert Lester
Bradley McDougald (skins had interest in him)
Jawanza Starling
Rontez Miles
Ray Ray Armstrong
Keelan Johnson (skins had interest in him)

K/P
Johnathan Plisco (I-AA all american at ODU)
Brad Wing
Quinn Sharpe
Jackson Rice
Ryan Allen
Luke Ingram (LS)

[Meks]

A thread with a list of our picks would be great

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by RGIII

It'll just be a business decision. That's all. If and when it happens.

Changed post in quote. For some reason thought bottle was thrown and hit the woman in the face. The only thing Fred Davis is really guilty of is being an insecure moron.

However I would hope that if he had thrown the bottle at the womans face the team wouldn't have brought him back. I think at the very least the NFL needs to start handing out bans for proven physical violence against women because personally I don't trust a lot of teams to draw the line.

Still I judged to quickly. I don't have to change my opinion that Fred Davis is essentially a moron but he's not a women beater.

[Mechanix544]

Id like John Wetzel. He has some talent............

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Meks

A thread with a list of our picks would be great

Could not agree more! Too bad were both too lazy to do it.

Thank you in advance for whoever does it!

[RGIII]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Id like John Wetzel. He has some talent............

What a coincidence. A Trueblood clone, from the same school... No thanks.

NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - John Wetzel

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Not questioning the actual picks. Is our backfield that suspect that we needed 2 RBs though? That is the heart of the debate.

What debate? Your opinion vs. Shanahan's regarding drafting RB's? LOL

[warriorzpath]

2 Darren Spoles type running backs drafted in the late rounds. I knew AJ Smith would have a noticeable impact in this draft.

Just for those that don't know - these running backs are going to be more than backups to Alfred Morris. These are change of pace backs that give the Redskins offense also another layer with swing passes, receptions from another position, offensive speed, and potential playmakers . Again ala Darren Sproles.

[simbosargos75]

I'm shocked Tyler Bray went undrafted. I think his upside is pretty high.

I really like the Jawan Jamison pick a lot too.