Around the NFL- Week 3

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I couldn't imagine being a Packers fan right now. I missed the end of the game last night but I was absolutely shocked when I saw what happened this morning.

Does anyone still think the replacements refs are no big deal? Can we please stop with that nonsense now?

It was only a matter of time before these refs blew a game like this.

I honestly did not think they would be this bad. What I saw last night was simply atrocious. Not only did they hand Seattle the game but they made numerous god awful calls. Time give these guys their walking papers.

[Chico23231]

Goodell is sitting back allowing it to happen. Believe what you will, he should be the driving force between the parties in striking a deal. He is ultimately responsible for the leadership of the sport and the product on the field. Should have pushed to have this done before the season started, had all summer.

[SmootSmack]

The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?

Yeah, I dont think the comparison close. Refs will always miss calls, but their knowledge of the rules of the game is much stronger than what we have seen. Simple things such as time keeping with the clock, spotting the ball, knowing how many challenges or timeouts, etc. have been sorely missed.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?

come on, its never been this bad. Every week, there are at least 5 or 6 games in question with calls that had a major impact on either the flow or the outcome of the game. OF course people are always going to complain about calls, but you have to admit that this is just a little out of hand now.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?

It's true that the regular refs aren't perfect. And, I had mostly been of the feeling that you need to give these guys time. But time seems to be making matters worse. One guy who was at the Ravens game near the sideline told me that a well known Ravens LB was telling his CB's to just get the hands on the receivers because the refs weren't calling things.

Whatever, you can't convince me that every game would be having this many issues like they are now. Maybe one dramatic call every few weeks, at most. Not game changing f ups in multiple games every single week.

[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?

I heard that some of the division is they want the real refs to become full time employees, and train in the offseason?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?

Kinda opens up a whole nuther can of worms...

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?

To me there is a distinction between bad calls and wrong calls. People weren't wholly concerned about the integrity of the game under the regular refs. But now? There are plenty of people worried about it. Until our Rams game I was part of the "these guys aren't too bad and they'll get better" crowd. These past two weeks have proven to me though just how difficult the job is and just how unqualified these scabs are. It is CLEARLY affecting the game and it is even more CLEARLY affecting the fans' perception of the game. THAT is a major problem that the league needs to recognize and get fixed immediately.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

To me there is a distinction between bad calls and wrong calls. People weren't wholly concerned about the integrity of the game under the regular refs. But now? There are plenty of people worried about it. Until our Rams game I was part of the "these guys aren't too bad and they'll get better" crowd. These past two weeks have proven to me though just how difficult the job is and just how unqualified these scabs are. It is CLEARLY affecting the game and it is even more CLEARLY affecting the fans' perception of the game. THAT is a major problem that the league needs to recognize and get fixed immediately.

That's kind of the point I was trying to make. Are fans going to go back to "these refs suck!!!!!" or will it be "well, damn I have so much respect for the work you do I'll just keep quiet"

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The call was terrible, but what's the excuse going to be when regular referees return and they make the same bad calls fans have been complaining about for years?

Refs will always miss calls, unless we get robot field judges that are programmed to see everything, everywhere, everytime.

There will still be ticky tack calls missed, i.e. missed holding calls, subtle jostling between db's/wr's, etc. but a lot of things we used to take for granted should return to normal. Things like game speed, refs being in the right position to see things, controlling the players so scraps don't get out of hand, etc.

The obvious calls should still be called, like calling Sidney Rice for interference because he was draped all over Sam Shields instead of putting that on Shields. Same thing with plays like the one Darrius Heyward-Bey got injured on.

Things like the refs knowing the rulebook too, like a dead ball foul is not a 10 second runoff inside 2 minutes, and things like correct spotting of the ball after a penalty so 20 yard unsportmanslike penalties never happen.

Those are all examples of things that the regular refs never had a problem with, and are glaring examples of what the replacements have done so far. Sure, instances of the refs penalizing the player who retaliates against an instigator will happen, but that should be expected by now.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by mooby

.....unless we get robot field judges that are programmed to see everything, everywhere, everytime.

Well, finally! Robocop syle would suit me.

They could put a transponder in the ball so its location is never in doubt (kinda like tennis) and make better use of the replay booth.

Oh, and bring back the Ver. 1.0 refs, already!

[mooby]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Well, finally! Robocop syle would suit me.

They could put a transponder in the ball so its location is never in doubt (kinda like tennis) and make better use of the replay booth.

Oh, and bring back the Ver. 1.0 refs, already!

Cletus the Fox football robot said he'll be available as soon as they program him to stop dancing dammit!

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by mooby

Cletus the Fox football robot said he'll be available as soon as they program him to stop dancing dammit!

Hell, no! Dude dresses in blue from head to toe, you KNOW he's a closet Cowboys fan.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mooby

Cletus the Fox football robot said he'll be available as soon as they program him to stop dancing dammit!

I've never understood what a dancing robot has to do with the NFL.