Who do you want to start at QB?

Mechanix544 · 09-01-2011, 11:17 PM

beck will start. its his job to lose.

Ruhskins · 09-01-2011, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechanix544

beck will start. its his job to lose.

It still doesn't feel right to me to go with a guy at QB that has "potential upside" at 30 years old and looks so-so during preseason. Not to say that Rex looked amazing, but I wish Beck had looked the way that Rex looked against the Steelers and Ravens. If Beck was a rookie or younger, I'd be fine...but I dunno. I hope I'm wrong and I will root for the guy, but I'm just iffy about him starting.

SirClintonPortis · 09-01-2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechanix544

beck will start. its his job to lose.

Beck can use a little more seasoning.

Besidies, if history wants to repeat itself, Grossman should win the job, then suffers an injury due to some cheap player, and then Beck lights it up for the rest of the season. lol

Ruhskins · 09-01-2011, 11:42 PM

I think MS is going to wait until the last possible minute to name a starting QB.

FRPLG · 09-01-2011, 11:47 PM

I'm not sure Beck played as badly as JT would have us believe. I don't think he played well but more just average. KS clearly called a different type of game with a lot more straight drop backs and so forth. Our line strength is not going to be doing that and it showed. JB had a little more in the face pressure and for the most part he handled it OK. Not in love with his game tonight but it wasn't a full on debacle...and it wasn't as poor as JT made it out to be. Given the lack of weapons I'm not sure Rex does any better.

Swarley · 09-01-2011, 11:47 PM

For what it's worth Beck said that the reason he played today is cause the coaches wanted to give him a few more snaps since he missed the first game.

SirClintonPortis · 09-01-2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

I'm not sure Beck played as badly as JT would have us believe. I don't think he played well but more just average. KS clearly called a different type of game with a lot more straight drop backs and so forth. Our line strength is not going to be doing that and it showed. JB had a little more in the face pressure and for the most part he handled it OK. Not in love with his game tonight but it wasn't a full on debacle...and it wasn't as poor as JT made it out to be. Given the lack of weapons I'm not sure Rex does any better.

Well, he did show that he can display a critical skill of a QB on that one play a defender got free: delivering an ACCURATE strike while being hit. He just needs to do it more often.

But, the game stills seems a tad fast for him, as his dropback is not fluid just yet.

SmootSmack · 09-02-2011, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Wilso knows.

Grossman is the starter.

I tend to agree. Have kind of felt that way for a while

GusFrerotte · 09-02-2011, 12:20 AM

Damn I feel this is Nov 2012 and we have a choice between two shmucks for Pres. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Either choice is sort of lame anymore. Chase Daniel has had more of an impressive preseason than both of these guys statwise. I am almost wishing we still had JC, as our predicament is almost that bad. I see Rex getting hurt, and Beck losing games for us. I mean how can guys like Daniel and Bartel have solid preseasons and they are backups and this guy(Beck) has a mediocre one and I am supposed to think he is going to magically turn it on come 9-11-11 and be a solid starter for us? I really think we need to be concerned about our QB situation for 2011. I also believe we need to draft not one, but two QBs next year.

GusFrerotte · 09-02-2011, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GreekSkin

For what it's worth Beck said that the reason he played today is cause the coaches wanted to give him a few more snaps since he missed the first game.

Guy didn't really instill confidence in them either I bet. Whoever wins the starting job does it by default, and that isn't a good sign.

SirClintonPortis · 09-02-2011, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Damn I feel this is Nov 2012 and we have a choice between two shmucks for Pres. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Either choice is sort of lame anymore. Chase Daniel has had more of an impressive preseason than both of these guys statwise. I am almost wishing we still had JC, as our predicament is almost that bad. I see Rex getting hurt, and Beck losing games for us. I mean how can guys like Daniel and Bartel have solid preseasons and they are backups and this guy(Beck) has a mediocre one and I am supposed to think he is going to magically turn it on come 9-11-11 and be a solid starter for us? I really think we need to be concerned about our QB situation for 2011. I also believe we need to draft not one, but two QBs next year.

Grossman has been excellent this preseason and Beck's play has displayed established that baseline of mere competence and with the potential for plenty more. Both of them can execute Kyle's offense at a reasonable level that the passing game will have to be respected.

Campbell is a wuss who NEVER did well when he's about to get hit or was being hit. His vision went to crap and he just looked for Cooley. Not only that, but he was never particularly confident about "gunning it in", something BOTH Beck and Grossman have no qualms about.

Paintrain · 09-02-2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Damn I feel this is Nov 2012 and we have a choice between two shmucks for Pres. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Either choice is sort of lame anymore. Chase Daniel has had more of an impressive preseason than both of these guys statwise. I am almost wishing we still had JC, as our predicament is almost that bad. I see Rex getting hurt, and Beck losing games for us. I mean how can guys like Daniel and Bartel have solid preseasons and they are backups and this guy(Beck) has a mediocre one and I am supposed to think he is going to magically turn it on come 9-11-11 and be a solid starter for us? I really think we need to be concerned about our QB situation for 2011. I also believe we need to draft not one, but two QBs next year.

Only our damn fan base is concerned about next years draft before the regular season even begins. Really dude? Can't you wait until Oct. 1 at least until we have a pulse of the team? So annoying.

Swarley · 09-02-2011, 03:31 AM

not to mention that both QB's had a fairly good pre-season (besides this game for Beck)

irish · 09-02-2011, 06:49 AM

I wonder if the reason Beck has never established himself as a starter is that he's just not consistent from game to game, good game then bad game. He didnt look good at all last night.

Beemnseven · 09-02-2011, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

I wonder if the reason Beck has never established himself as a starter is that he's just not consistent from game to game, good game then bad game. He didnt look good at all last night.

He didn't look good "at all" last night? Really?

Sure, he had some throws that he'd like to have back, maybe more so than in any game we've seen so far in exhibition. But he still made some completions under pressure, with zip and accuracy in the intermediate yardage range that we never saw with either Donovan McNabb last year, nor with Jason Campbell the previous five years.

I don't know how with one bad night we can hang the Inconsistent Tag around his neck, as though it's going to be an ongoing problem with him. We just don't know that yet.

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09-01-2011, 11:17 PM	#331
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,277	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? beck will start. its his job to lose.

09-01-2011, 11:42 PM	#334
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,221	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? I think MS is going to wait until the last possible minute to name a starting QB. __________________ R.I.P. #21

09-01-2011, 11:47 PM	#335
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 10,164	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? I'm not sure Beck played as badly as JT would have us believe. I don't think he played well but more just average. KS clearly called a different type of game with a lot more straight drop backs and so forth. Our line strength is not going to be doing that and it showed. JB had a little more in the face pressure and for the most part he handled it OK. Not in love with his game tonight but it wasn't a full on debacle...and it wasn't as poor as JT made it out to be. Given the lack of weapons I'm not sure Rex does any better.

09-01-2011, 11:47 PM	#336
Swarley The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 35 Posts: 1,092	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? For what it's worth Beck said that the reason he played today is cause the coaches wanted to give him a few more snaps since he missed the first game.

09-02-2011, 12:20 AM	#339
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? Damn I feel this is Nov 2012 and we have a choice between two shmucks for Pres. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Either choice is sort of lame anymore. Chase Daniel has had more of an impressive preseason than both of these guys statwise. I am almost wishing we still had JC, as our predicament is almost that bad. I see Rex getting hurt, and Beck losing games for us. I mean how can guys like Daniel and Bartel have solid preseasons and they are backups and this guy(Beck) has a mediocre one and I am supposed to think he is going to magically turn it on come 9-11-11 and be a solid starter for us? I really think we need to be concerned about our QB situation for 2011. I also believe we need to draft not one, but two QBs next year.

09-02-2011, 03:31 AM	#343
Swarley The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 35 Posts: 1,092	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? not to mention that both QB's had a fairly good pre-season (besides this game for Beck)

09-02-2011, 06:49 AM	#344
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Who do you want to start at QB? I wonder if the reason Beck has never established himself as a starter is that he's just not consistent from game to game, good game then bad game. He didnt look good at all last night.

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