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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

You can't seriously think anonymous twitter user @acyn is a reliable source.

I can’t believe he thinks yahoo news is a reliable source…lol

G1 no one doctored anything, it was pretty damn sad.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I can’t believe he thinks yahoo news is a reliable source…lol

G1 no one doctored anything, it was pretty damn sad.

I don't understand where the perception of Biden being senile or lost or dopey comes from. Actually I do understand it, he was painted that way by Trump in an effort to try to win, and Fox News and others caught on and are working to perpetuate it.

I'm a moderate R and I can't stand Biden's economic policies, but you have to acknowledge that the approach with leading NATO with respect to Ukraine has been masterful. They intentionally release intelligence info on expected Russian moves right before each Russian action takes place. They say Putin will invade, he invades. They say he will attempt to encircle Kyiv, he attempts to encircle Kyiv. They say he will increase missile attacks, he increases missile attacks. They say he will use an indiscriminate bombing campaign, he does just that.

That series of releases gains the US immediate credibility with respect to understanding Russia. Which puts Biden in position to lead NATO and unite them. So much so that Germany increases its defense spending, something Trump whined about but couldn't successfully get them to do.

You can stand up there and whine and bloviate about things all you want, but making things happen takes strategy, credibility, and leadership. Biden's administration has executed it brilliantly and NATO is looking to the US once again to set a rational, measured yet resolved tone. It's lending to stability in a period where there's increasing instability in Europe.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't understand where the perception of Biden being senile or lost or dopey comes from. Actually I do understand it, he was painted that way by Trump in an effort to try to win, and Fox News and others caught on and are working to perpetuate it.

I'm a moderate R and I can't stand Biden's economic policies, but you have to acknowledge that the approach with leading NATO with respect to Ukraine has been masterful. They intentionally release intelligence info on expected Russian moves right before each Russian action takes place. They say Putin will invade, he invades. They say he will attempt to encircle Kyiv, he attempts to encircle Kyiv. They say he will increase missile attacks, he increases missile attacks. They say he will use an indiscriminate bombing campaign, he does just that.

That series of releases gains the US immediate credibility with respect to understanding Russia. Which puts Biden in position to lead NATO and unite them. So much so that Germany increases its defense spending, something Trump whined about but couldn't successfully get them to do.

You can stand up there and whine and bloviate about things all you want, but making things happen takes strategy, credibility, and leadership. Biden's administration has executed it brilliantly and NATO is looking to the US once again to set a rational, measured yet resolved tone. It's lending to stability in a period where there's increasing instability in Europe.

I think how the Ukraine fight has played out and the post war strategy has gone about as well as it could for Biden politically, when tied directly to the conflict. I’m actually surprised to hear less saber rattling than I thought I would. I woulda sent the migs tho.

With regards to NATO, it’s now encouraging that they are now increasing spending which is a result of pressure campaigns. Germany laughed when accused by Trump that ties to Russia energy didn’t align strategic goals..they arent laughing now.

I don’t see anything brilliant in a war that broke out again in Europe under another administration Biden is a part of. That’s like Trump saying Putin is brilliant for sending in peace keepers.

I don’t know how this ends, Gen Milley said originally Kiev would be taken in 72 hours…Ukraine proven to be a lil more resilient. Can the Ukraines win? Maybe? They are going to have to show the ability to push Russia out of the eastern front…i just don’t think they can do it alone.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I can’t believe he thinks yahoo news is a reliable source…lol

G1 no one doctored anything, it was pretty damn sad.

What's sad is your Biden Derangement Syndrome. You bitch about MSM and won't believe when it's proven FOX lied to you. Face it you were made a fool of.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I can’t believe he thinks yahoo news is a reliable source…lol

G1 no one doctored anything, it was pretty damn sad.

It was Rolling Stone you DA!


.....................reading is fundamental!

[Giantone]

Dennis P. Crawford
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The Russian intelligence agency has been spreading false rumors that President Biden is allegedly not healthy. Fox once again has helped disseminate Russian disinformation.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

You can't seriously think anonymous twitter user @acyn is a reliable source.

??? Rolling Stone does.



Rolling Stone
@RollingStone
Fox News doctored clips of Obama's visit to the White House to make it seem like Biden was lost.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

??? Rolling Stone does.



Rolling Stone
@RollingStone
Fox News doctored clips of Obama's visit to the White House to make it seem like Biden was lost.

Much like most things you miss the point. One clip from Fox does not evidence make nor does one clip that can be taken out of context from CSPAN provide evidence to the contrary. A twitter user that wasn't even there? That is click bait fodder at best.

I think it is easy enough to identify when Fox News is lying without looking like a douche bag and coming off as an idiot.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Much like most things you miss the point. One clip from Fox does not evidence make nor does one clip that can be taken out of context from CSPAN provide evidence to the contrary. A twitter user that wasn't even there? That is click bait fodder at best.

I think it is easy enough to identify when Fox News is lying without looking like a douche bag and coming off as an idiot.

How many clips do you give FOX , two , three, 10?I get it you wanna act like an ass and not believe it that's your choice, cool . FOX has doctored videos' of Biden before .Not past them to do it again.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-satchel-paige

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

How many clips do you give FOX , two , three, 10?I get it you wanna act like an ass and not believe it that's your choice, cool . FOX has doctored videos' of Biden before .Not past them to do it again.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-satchel-paige

Once again missing the point. There were plenty of first person accounts of what happened yet you chose to use an unreliable source a random internet poster, just because it is correct doesn't mean it's credible. Your posting of random shit gets nauseating when you could provide evidence with credible first hand sources.

[SunnySide]

Title 42 was implemented to prevent the spread declaration of Covid during our national declaration of a pandemic.

GOP says pandemic is over and have spent 2 years downplaying and denying the dangers of Covid.

If GOP thinks Covid declaration should end .. then so should the implementation of Title 42 invoked for Covid.

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Personally I think and thought our immigration laws already on the books did what Title 42 does.

But for this matter, Title 42 was invoked for Covid. If GOP thinks Covid Declaration is over then so should Title 42 declaration made specifically for Covid.

Send up a Bill looking to make the restrictions of Title 42 permanent.

But .. GOP cant spend years downplaying covid then feign concern of covid when it comes to immigration.


(This is just how I feel. Not claiming Im right or anyone elses thoughts are wrong)

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Title 42 was implemented to prevent the spread declaration of Covid during our national declaration of a pandemic.

GOP says pandemic is over and have spent 2 years downplaying and denying the dangers of Covid.

If GOP thinks Covid declaration should end .. then so should the implementation of Title 42 invoked for Covid.

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Personally I think and thought our immigration laws already on the books did what Title 42 does.

But for this matter, Title 42 was invoked for Covid. If GOP thinks Covid Declaration is over then so should Title 42 declaration made specifically for Covid.

Send up a Bill looking to make the restrictions of Title 42 permanent.

But .. GOP cant spend years downplaying covid then feign concern of covid when it comes to immigration.


(This is just how I feel. Not claiming Im right or anyone elses thoughts are wrong)

All good information (thanks). The point I was calling out was the claim the GOP attached an unrelated amendment when it certainly isn't unrelated as even your info shows (May be contradictory to what the GOP was pushing in removing domestic COVID policy but then removing the restriction would also fly in the face of what the Biden administration's position is on COVID).

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by nonniey

All good information (thanks). The point I was calling out was the claim the GOP attached an unrelated amendment when it certainly isn't unrelated as even your info shows (May be contradictory to what the GOP was pushing in removing domestic COVID policy but then removing the restriction would also fly in the face of what the Biden administration's position is on COVID).

You were right, it was related. It was very related. I was wrong on that. Shot from the hip, then read up on it more.

I moved the goal posts a good bit in my reply.

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I personally want what Title 42 does, but unless its attached to some emergency powers with a sunset, Im guessing it would require 60 votes in Senate to pass as legislation.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Immigration laws, gun laws, X laws, we have hundreds of thousands of laws and pieces of legislation.

Most issues don't need more laws/legislation. We need enforcement of current laws and legitimate punishments for breaking laws.

Politicians don't abide by the laws we already have, so making up some new ones is all for show. They treat them as mere suggestions at best and outright ignore them altogether at worst, when politically convenient to do so.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Immigration laws, gun laws, X laws, we have hundreds of thousands of laws and pieces of legislation.

Most issues don't need more laws/legislation. We need enforcement of current laws and legitimate punishments for breaking laws.

Politicians don't abide by the laws we already have, so making up some new ones is all for show. They treat them as mere suggestions at best and outright ignore them altogether at worst, when politically convenient to do so.

4/7/2022 8:24 pm we agree!