Trouble in Redskins Park?

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Who's to blame for the meh drafts, free agent busts and the Cousins contract screw up? Where's the proof that Scot is somehow indispensable and all hell will break loose if he departs?

I like the idea of a competent "football guy" GM as much as the next Skins fan, but what exactly has Scot done? And what IF he's a mess personally and can't keep his act together?

All Skins fault? I don't get the sense this is the total dumpster fire the media is making it out to be. They have an axe to grind, because they're being kept out of the loop.

I love your optimism, and normally I'm one of the more optimistic cats in burgundy and gold, but the truth is, this has disaster written all over it. I don't think it's coincidence that Scot McCloughan comes in and suddenly the team is winning 8 or 9 games and making the playoffs. McCloughan has been around three successful transitions of teams from poor to fantastic. He knows how to bring in the right guys and he knows the correct way to build through the draft. You also can't judge a draft after one season. It takes a few seasons to really get a good idea how good or bad that draft really was. And least we also remember that in the past, Scot McCloughan's players tend to last longer in the NFL than players drafted by any other GM, so that tells you something of the magnitude of talent McCloughan can bring to the scouting department. When he gets the axe, you're going to see it then.

We do not want Bruce Allen governing over player acquisitions.

[MTK]

This is what I was talking about when I said Gruden vs McC, not that they don't get along but it seems that Gruden's influence is growing and perhaps filling the void from McC's diminishing role.

Need to Know: Gruden's extension further increases his power in Redskins organization | CSN Mid-Atlantic

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

This is what I was talking about when I said Gruden vs McC, not that they don't get along but it seems that Gruden's influence is growing and perhaps filling the void from McC's diminishing role.

Need to Know: Gruden's extension further increases his power in Redskins organization | CSN Mid-Atlantic

As long as Gruden makes the right decisions with personnel, then I don't see a problem with Gruden's growing influence. His move with RGIII to Kirk Cousins was a highly risky one that paid off. I love the idea of having a good coach around for a few years. That being said, I don't think it should ever grow to the point to where he's coach/GM. I think there needs to be a solid player personnel guy in that position, one that both Gruden and Allen would respect and likewise. A good working relationship with all three. I still would love to keep McCloughan on staff if he's willing to take some sort of a diminished role. If he's head of the scouting department or something like that, but I don't know how that would honestly work with the personalities we currently have in the front office now. Who knows? Maybe McCloughan keeps his job and everybody continues to hold hands and sing camp fire songs? I just don't trust player acquisition to Bruce Allen, and I don't think a head coach should be taking on that responsibility - especially when he's only been head coach for three years.

[Chico23231]

After missing the Combine, Redskins GM Scot McCloughan has not returned to team headquarters and is not involved in free agent negotiations.

Publicly, team brass has insisted McCloughan would return to Redskins Park whenever he is finished dealing with "personal matters." Privately, it appears McCloughan is being forced out or already has been. The NFL Combine is a critical venue for both draft and free agency information gathering, and teams make some of their biggest decisions of the year during this week's legal tampering window and Thursday's official start of free agency.


McC not negotiation with FA...doesn't make sense.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

After missing the Combine, Redskins GM Scot McCloughan has not returned to team headquarters and is not involved in free agent negotiations.

Publicly, team brass has insisted McCloughan would return to Redskins Park whenever he is finished dealing with "personal matters." Privately, it appears McCloughan is being forced out or already has been. The NFL Combine is a critical venue for both draft and free agency information gathering, and teams make some of their biggest decisions of the year during this week's legal tampering window and Thursday's official start of free agency.


McC not negotiation with FA...doesn't make sense.

It does if he's gonna get fired.

[metalskins]

If what was said is true, I don't think the team can comment that he's in rehab, so if he hasn't returned by now, I have a feeling he's already out.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

It does if he's gonna get fired.

Keim saying he aint even at Redskins Park...sad day.

yikes:

https://twitter.com/RyanButlerLT/sta...872384/photo/1

[Stacks42]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Keim saying he aint even at Redskins Park...sad day.

yikes:

https://twitter.com/RyanButlerLT/sta...872384/photo/1

Well at least he is rocking Skins gear.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Who's to blame for the meh drafts, free agent busts and the Cousins contract screw up? Where's the proof that Scot is somehow indispensable and all hell will break loose if he departs?

I like the idea of a competent "football guy" GM as much as the next Skins fan, but what exactly has Scot done? And what IF he's a mess personally and can't keep his act together?

All Skins fault? I don't get the sense this is the total dumpster fire the media is making it out to be. They have an axe to grind, because they're being kept out of the loop.

What has he done? He has changed the direction of the team and wants to build through the draft. Wants to be strong in the trenches. His way is proven with sustained success. He comes from a background in Green Bay under Ron Wolf that WORKS. If I were Bruce Allen I would be doing everything I could to make this work. Obviously egos and personal issues get in the way.

If this parting of the ways is drinking related then just come out and say it and quit lying to everyone. Say SM is having personal challenges. If it's ego related then shame on the Redskins front office. You brought the guy here, let him do this thing and get the F out of the way. Remember, your way and model is a complete and utter failure.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Stacks42

Well at least he is rocking Skins gear.

Think I smoked a joint with that guy at an Allman Brother Concert about 15 years ago.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If this parting of the ways is drinking related then just come out and say it and quit lying to everyone. Say SM is having personal challenges. If it's ego related then shame on the Redskins front office. You brought the guy here, let him do this thing and get the F out of the way. Remember, your way and model is a complete and utter failure.

I'm pretty sure the team cannot say that he is having drinking related issues; and they have come out and said that he's dealing with personal matters but no one seems to be happy with that answer. So what else are they supposed to say?

[metalskins]

Hhhhmmmmmm.....

[CRedskinsRule]

Maybe he's been resting up for Redskin1's whirlwind tour Friday evening. Ahhh Snyderatto is in the air.

[SolidSnake84]

He is not in rehab. He is at home. He is watching game film and what not. He expects to be fired shortly after the draft.

Mike Jones: McCloughan at Home, ‘Probably Gone’ After Draft « CBS DC

Get ready guys. We are soon to be the laughing stock once again of the NFL, not that we may not be already.

This thing with Scot is just sad. I don't even think he relapsed now. I think for whatever reason Gruden wanted him out and with Gruden's stock rising in the eye of Snyder and Allen, Scott M was viewed as the expendable piece...

[Evilgrin]

I can't wait til McCloughan can talk.