nfl week 15

skinsfaninok · 12-20-2009, 01:14 AM

I give Dallas props they dominated no all game tonight. I still think we beat them next Sunday.. In fact I think that's our only other win of the season

Kalisto2010 · 12-20-2009, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I give Dallas props they dominated no all game tonight. I still think we beat them next Sunday.. In fact I think that's our only other win of the season

The Saints have been winning on luck and unmitigated favoritism by the NFL referee's during these last few weeks. Next to go down, Peyton Manning.

GMScud · 12-20-2009, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalisto2010

The Saints have been winning on luck and unmitigated favoritism by the NFL referee's during these last few weeks. Next to go down, Peyton Manning.

Your signature is such a failure it's silly. Roy has been a starter his entire career. Austin just got put in the starting lineup 8 games ago, and yet he's pacing to surpass Roy's best effort in 7 tries as a full time starter. You're just lobbing up softballs for us. It's a lot of fun. Keep it up please.

Truth be told, I could care less about either guy. I just think it's so funny how you have this totally unfounded man-crush on such a loser from our arch-rival.

If Roy was so great, his numbers would back it up. One good season in 7 tries. You lose.

Miles Austin's ONLY season as a starter? 60+ catches, 1100+ yards, 11 TDs. In half a season's worth of games. Roy never did that. You lose again.

GTripp0012 · 12-20-2009, 02:35 AM

Is it wrong that when Kalisto made the obviously fallacious statement that bums don't get voted into pro bowls, that I immediately thought of D-Hall?

Am I really that bad of a fan, or do I just not really associate him with the Redskins fully yet?

Anyway, hard to argue with other-Roy-Williams as an ideal example of someone who never really earned pro bowl status. Drafted high and playing for Dallas is a near certain ticket to get to the pro bowl.

CultBrennan59 · 12-20-2009, 02:44 AM

Man I'm still mad that after we barely(and should have beat the saints) lost to the saints I was like "Well I want to see them go undefeated throughout the regular season, and of all teams to beat them, The Cowgirls. Well, at least the good news is that jerry jones won't think about firing Wade this week, so that makes us just inch even closer to Shanahan.

Kalisto2010 · 12-20-2009, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Well, at least the good news is that jerry jones won't think about firing Wade this week, so that makes us just inch even closer to Shanahan.

Exactly, however, it would be interesting to see an epic bidding war between Snyder and Jones to land his services.

GTripp0012 · 12-20-2009, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Mosley

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* Miles Austin is obviously the Cowboys' No. 1 wide receiver at this point. He had the big touchdown early in the game but his catch and run on a third-and-long with 6:28 left in the game held the Saints' comeback at bay. You can tell Romo has so much faith in Austin. Conversely, why would anyone have faith in Roy Williams at this point? His drop on a quick slant in the fourth quarter allowed the Saints to continue their comeback. I'd bench the guy. He really has no business being on the field -- especially with players such as Kevin Ogletree and Patrick Crayton making clutch catches.

Cowboys rapid-fire observations - NFC East Blog - ESPN

Mosley covered Roy Williams in college, if I'm not mistaken.

Kalisto2010 · 12-20-2009, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Anyway, hard to argue with other-Roy-Williams as an ideal example of someone who never really earned pro bowl status. Drafted high and playing for Dallas is a near certain ticket to get to the pro bowl.

IMO Sean Taylor was the best Safety I've ever seen. However, If you compare Roy Williams stats to Sean Taylor's they're almost identical. To insinuate the the NFL players and coaches were wrong by voting him in is non-sense.

Roy L. Williams Stats - Cincinnati Bengals - ESPN

Sean Taylor Stats - Washington Redskins - ESPN

GTripp0012 · 12-20-2009, 02:59 AM

I think, and I'm doing this at the risk of 10-odd games worth of evidence, I would have to conclude that between our game with the Cowboys, and each of our games with the Saints, that the Cowboys have a better defense than us for the first time since...2006.

We needed to close at the end of a great defensive performance in Dallas, and couldn't do it. They did. We needed to close after our kicker shanked it, and didn't. They could have hung their heads and gone to the locker room, but instead, their defense manned up and got it done.

He's kind of a joke as a head coach, but I don't think I'd mind Wade Phillips here next year as our DC.

GTripp0012 · 12-20-2009, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalisto2010

IMO Sean Taylor was the best Safety I've ever seen. However, If you compare Roy Williams stats to Sean Taylor's they're almost identical. To insinuate the the NFL players and coaches were wrong by voting him in is non-sense.

Roy L. Williams Stats - Cincinnati Bengals - ESPN

Sean Taylor Stats - Washington Redskins - ESPN

I think this is a more anti-Sean argument than a pro-Roy Williams one.

Sean definitely didn't deserve to go in 2006. In 2007, he was by far the best safety in the league for about half a season, but he didn't play in the second half of the season. He didn't play for the Cowboys, so it's not unreasonable to suggest that if he had missed the second half of the season with injury, as opposed to tragedy, he would have been passed over despite leading the league in INTs at the midway point.

SmootSmack · 12-20-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Is it wrong that when Kalisto made the obviously fallacious statement that bums don't get voted into pro bowls, that I immediately thought of D-Hall?

Am I really that bad of a fan, or do I just not really associate him with the Redskins fully yet?

Anyway, hard to argue with other-Roy-Williams as an ideal example of someone who never really earned pro bowl status. Drafted high and playing for Dallas is a near certain ticket to get to the pro bowl.

You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch

joethiesmanfan · 12-20-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

fuck miles austin

My sentiments exactly

dmek25 · 12-20-2009, 10:10 AM

WR 19 Austin, Miles ACT REC 65 YDS 1,138 AVG 17.5 TDS 11 DAL
WR 11 Williams, Roy E. ACT REC 37 YDS 592 AVG 16.0 TDS 6 DAL
these are this years stats, with Austins first season as a full time starter. i guess facts are facts, and Williams sucks

dmek25 · 12-20-2009, 10:13 AM

then compare him to Fred Davis, who has only started a handful of games
TE 86 Davis, Fred ACT REC 35 YDS 369 AVG 10.5 TDS 5 WAS
and you realize he REALLY sucks

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-20-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalisto2010

IMO Sean Taylor was the best Safety I've ever seen. However, If you compare Roy Williams stats to Sean Taylor's they're almost identical. To insinuate the the NFL players and coaches were wrong by voting him in is non-sense.

Roy L. Williams Stats - Cincinnati Bengals - ESPN

Sean Taylor Stats - Washington Redskins - ESPN

Seeing that Roy Williams was drafted 2 years before Sean Taylor and they have identical stats just shows that Roy Williams didnt earn anything

12-20-2009, 01:14 AM	#316
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,114	Re: nfl week 15 I give Dallas props they dominated no all game tonight. I still think we beat them next Sunday.. In fact I think that's our only other win of the season __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-20-2009, 02:35 AM	#319
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: nfl week 15 Is it wrong that when Kalisto made the obviously fallacious statement that bums don't get voted into pro bowls, that I immediately thought of D-Hall? Am I really that bad of a fan, or do I just not really associate him with the Redskins fully yet? Anyway, hard to argue with other-Roy-Williams as an ideal example of someone who never really earned pro bowl status. Drafted high and playing for Dallas is a near certain ticket to get to the pro bowl. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

12-20-2009, 02:44 AM	#320
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: nfl week 15 Man I'm still mad that after we barely(and should have beat the saints) lost to the saints I was like "Well I want to see them go undefeated throughout the regular season, and of all teams to beat them, The Cowgirls. Well, at least the good news is that jerry jones won't think about firing Wade this week, so that makes us just inch even closer to Shanahan.

12-20-2009, 02:59 AM	#324
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: nfl week 15 I think, and I'm doing this at the risk of 10-odd games worth of evidence, I would have to conclude that between our game with the Cowboys, and each of our games with the Saints, that the Cowboys have a better defense than us for the first time since...2006. We needed to close at the end of a great defensive performance in Dallas, and couldn't do it. They did. We needed to close after our kicker shanked it, and didn't. They could have hung their heads and gone to the locker room, but instead, their defense manned up and got it done. He's kind of a joke as a head coach, but I don't think I'd mind Wade Phillips here next year as our DC. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

12-20-2009, 10:10 AM	#328
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: nfl week 15 WR 19 Austin, Miles ACT REC 65 YDS 1,138 AVG 17.5 TDS 11 DAL WR 11 Williams, Roy E. ACT REC 37 YDS 592 AVG 16.0 TDS 6 DAL these are this years stats, with Austins first season as a full time starter. i guess facts are facts, and Williams sucks __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

12-20-2009, 10:13 AM	#329
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: nfl week 15 then compare him to Fred Davis, who has only started a handful of games TE 86 Davis, Fred ACT REC 35 YDS 369 AVG 10.5 TDS 5 WAS and you realize he REALLY sucks __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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