Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by BuckSkin

I'd take a second and fourth for Cooley and throw AH in for free. On the AC thread a few members are asking... why didn't we trade Portis ,Moss, or AC while they still had value. Cooley is an upper echelon TE, but for how much longer.

No one wanted Portis's gigantic contract. He was practically untradable.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

1st and 3rd is like...elite WR payment. No one would pay that much for a tight end.

But if it happens, hell **** yeah.

We would get no better than a 3rd for CC

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Any truth to this [word of mouth] rumor about Cooley. If anyone has heard anything please share.

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As long as we continue to struggle as a team, and Cooley has a manageable, tradeable contract and performs decently enough...he will always be trade bait. It just makes sense to dangle him out there

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

We would get no better than a 3rd for CC

Hence why I used "if" in the second sentence.

[Dread-Skin]

Captain Chaos will stay a skin if he wants. But anything is possible we've yet to talk with SMoss to renew his contract so who knows.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As long as we continue to struggle as a team, and Cooley has a manageable, tradeable contract and performs decently enough...he will always be trade bait. It just makes sense to dangle him out there

Gauging his value can never be a bad thing. Cooley is just one of those players we love to have around because of his production. I'd like to see him in B&G for the remainder of his career, unless I'm overwhelmed by an offer I can't refuse.

[irish]

HELL YES!!!!! The Skins arent going anywhere with Cooley and if they can trade him for some nice picks then they should do it and build for the future.

[irish]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As long as we continue to struggle as a team, and Cooley has a manageable, tradeable contract and performs decently enough...he will always be trade bait. It just makes sense to dangle him out there

Absolutely!

[Ruhskins]

This reminds me of the yearly "Let's release Rock Cartwright" thread. LOL.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by BuckSkin

I'd take a second and fourth for Cooley and throw AH in for free. On the AC thread a few members are asking... why didn't we trade Portis ,Moss, or AC while they still had value. Cooley is an upper echelon TE, but for how much longer.

Not going to happen. At best you may get a 3rd rounder for CC at this particular time. The guy has had a injury and he fumbles entirely too much.


Chris Cooley - 7 seasons......11 fumbles
Antonio Gates - 8 seasons ......3 fumbles
Tony Gonzalez - 14 seasons......6 fumbles
Dallas Clark - 8 seasons............5 fumbles
Jason Witten - 8 seasons..........4 fumbles
Vernon Davis - 5 seasons.........4 fumbles


His fumbles dwarf those who are at the same position and have played longer. (some) Before some idiot comes back and says "those aren't fumbles lost", then realize that the act of recovering a fumble is pure luck. You don't judge a player on whether the fumble was lost or not, you judge him on the fumbles itself.


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Stripping the ball is a skill. Holding onto the ball is a skill. Pouncing on the ball as it is bouncing all over the place is not a skill. There is no correlation whatsoever between the percentage of fumbles recovered by a team in one year and the percentage they recover in the next year. The odds of recovery are based solely on the type of play involved, not the teams or any of their players.

[MTK]

Fumbles aside he's still a top TE... a 1st and a 3rd is ridiculous though. I realize this is an old thread.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Fumbles aside he's still a top TE... a 1st and a 3rd is ridiculous though. I realize this is an old thread.

I honestly can't think of TE in the league right now who's worth a 1st and a 3rd.

[celts32]

Cooley is a good player that us Redskins fans tend to vastly overrate since we don't have many good players. I would love to trade Cooley for a draft pick. IMO we think Cooley is so valuable to us winning because for most of Cooleys time here we have had weak QB's that have leaned on the safe passes to the TE since they can't get the ball down the field to the WR's.

[GTripp0012]

I think if you took me back to before the 2010 offseason, and told me I could either trade Cooley for a 1st and 3rd round pick, or NOT trade a 2nd and 4th round pick for McNabb, I'd rather collect draft picks by having Cooley and not McNabb vs. having McNabb and not Cooley.

With that said, where this team is right now, a Cooley trade would now make sense. I don't think it did a year ago, but I'm tired of different offensive staffs failing miserably to use the best talent on the roster. Cooley's long been one of my favorite Redskins, but I'd rather deal him now vs watching another year of him and Davis being used sub-optimally.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I honestly can't think of TE in the league right now who's worth a 1st and a 3rd.

A year ago, I would have dealt a 1st and a 3rd for Gates. He was phenomenal this year, but he had that foot injury, and that risk would at least make me pull the 3rd rounder from the offer. So I agree.