What's your take on our coaching?

[backrow]

I had thought about a new thread/Poll with the question about What about Mike? With a poll:

1. I like Mike!
2. Hire an up and coming Assistant Coach from another team
3. Hire a re-tread former mediocre Head Coach
4. Cowher (getting specific)
5. Mooch (see reasoning for #4.)



But then I saw this extremely long thread with over 20 pages, so I'm simply adding. The poll in this current thread is good, but not as long as my analytical brain dreamed up.

To answer the current poll: Should MS be in the HOT HOT HOT Seat?

I'll check back in three weeks if the season is officially over for us. Right now, I'm totally leaning toward yes, but 70% of our problems are line-depth related. And MS didn't understand that from last year, and early on this year? And is that MS's problem, or BA's?

[kevinjames1973]

I am looking at the big picture. I see a new franchise since Shanny got to town. I told myself once he was hired I would not make any decisions on Shanny based on record until after the 3rd season. What I see is a group of hard working guys. Guys who see this as a job and not a right. This team was so messed up when Shanny got here that 2 years or year and a half, isnt even close to enough time to fix it. I think they got a lot of great pieces for the defense last year. And didnt overpay for average payers on offense. I think they finish reshaping the offense this off season and next year we will start to see the team of the future in DC.

[53Fan]

Right now I would stay the course. Keep getting some good young talent in here and if things don't get better...hire an up and coming coach who doesn't have a bare cupboard when he gets here.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Right now I would stay the course. Keep getting some good young talent in here and if things don't get better...hire an up and coming coach who doesn't have a bare cupboard when he gets here.

Like when I suggested Harbaugh 2 years ago.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Like when I suggested Harbaugh 2 years ago.

I was very impressed how he ran the 49 offense yesterday. They have an identity. Not asking Smith to do too much. Simply a great hire.

[Sonny9TD]

Serious time management issues. Where is the hurry up at when behind by many points. Lack of urgency. Lazy coaching preparation. But that is at the bottom of the to do list.

[CrustyRedskin]

Kyle Shanahan: "Daddy we've lost four in a row, im ready to do something else this isnt any fun"

Daddy Shanahan: "Boy, do you see all those zeros at the end of your pay check?, now go get Dan some coffee, and after that play a little Madden and find us a few more bootlegs."

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Kyle Shanahan: "Daddy we've lost four in a row, im ready to do something else this isnt any fun"

Daddy Shanahan: "Boy, do you see all those zeros at the end of your pay check?, now go get Dan some coffee, and after that play a little Madden and find us a few more bootlegs."

Son Shanahan: Should we go to to the hurry up offense?

Daddy Shanahan: What hurry up offense?

Son: Oh yea we don't have one. What offense should we run?

Daddy: What offense?

[skinster]

I think our coaching is next to impossible to evaluate when our play is so piss poor. I wouldn't go blaming either Shanahan for our offensive woes when Gaffney is our number one WR, our O-line is banged up, our starting RB is gone, our best pass catcher (Davis) is banged up, and most importantly we don't have a qb. On the rare occasion that a pass play works and a player is open, beck either misses the target or throws to someone in quadruple coverage.

The only blame can go to the personnel brought in, but even then I can't blame him that much. He inherited a team with no young players, and no talent. Our offense is terrible, but defense was the priority to fix, and although I think our defense is mediocre, it has been greatly improved and should have been the focal point of the fixing. Imma give shanny 2 more years before I truly start to make judgments on him. Bellicheck wouldn't be doing well at this point if he were in shanny's shoes. God I hope we get a high draft pick.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinster

I think our coaching is next to impossible to evaluate when our play is so piss poor. I wouldn't go blaming either Shanahan for our offensive woes when Gaffney is our number one WR, our O-line is banged up, our starting RB is gone, our best pass catcher (Davis) is banged up, and most importantly we don't have a qb. On the rare occasion that a pass play works and a player is open, beck either misses the target or throws to someone in quadruple coverage.

The only blame can go to the personnel brought in, but even then I can't blame him that much. He inherited a team with no young players, and no talent. Our offense is terrible, but defense was the priority to fix, and although I think our defense is mediocre, it has been greatly improved and should have been the focal point of the fixing. Imma give shanny 2 more years before I truly start to make judgments on him. Bellicheck wouldn't be doing well at this point if he were in shanny's shoes. God I hope we get a high draft pick.

I still don't understand this. If the Shanahan's were going to install an offensive system regardless of the roster, then building up the offense should've been the priority.

[skinster]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I still don't understand this. If the Shanahan's were going to install an offensive system regardless of the roster, then building up the offense should've been the priority.

There were an enormous amount of holes on both sides of the ball. It was simply deemed that there were more on defense considering the switch in schemes. Plus I'm still convinced that 75% of any given offense is the qb, wich we do not have. Peyton Mannings absence this year proves that IMO. We simply didn't think that there was anyone good enough to pick up/draft this offseason. We're not going to take someone we think will be bad because we already have someone who is bad. That's dumb.

Plus there's been way more injuries to the offense than defense.

[CrustyRedskin]

They(coaches) are trying to make chicken salad out of chicken poop but Harbaugh's chicken salad looks great.

[Lotus]

I was a little more impressed by Kyle against the Niners. Although we still did not really run the ball, we had lots of short outlet passes which resembled runs - kind of like long hand-offs. This meant that we were not putting the QB in the position where he had to win the game for us, unlike in games past. Asking either Wrecks or Beck to win the game for us, as we have done in several games, has no hope of working. Kyle's game plan against the Niners was an improvement.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I was a little more impressed by Kyle against the Niners. Although we still did not really run the ball, we had lots of short outlet passes which resembled runs - kind of like long hand-offs. This meant that we were not putting the QB in the position where he had to win the game for us, unlike in games past. Asking either Wrecks or Beck to win the game for us, as we have done in several games, has no hope of working. Kyle's game plan against the Niners was an improvement.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

They(coaches) are trying to make chicken salad out of chicken poop but Harbaugh's chicken salad looks great.

I don't pretend to follow the Niners that much but it looks like they have some good pieces.

Frank Gore is a top 5-10 back.
They have a good OL.
Patrick Willis is really good.
Young talent on defense.
Davis is a good TE.
Ginn is a ST weapon.

So, theyve got some pieces to work w/.