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Old 10-22-2023, 04:34 PM   #1
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I still feel like he is the guy for the rest of the year. w/ that being said I would have benched him and went w/ Jacoby 2nd half.
I'm fine with him playing the rest of the year, we aren't going anywhere anyway. I'm not fine with chicken shit Ron Rivera being the coach. The fact that the team was better with Jay Gruden and Mike Shanahan says something
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Old 10-22-2023, 04:32 PM   #2
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I'm on the side of Howell is not it right now, anyone that says otherwise is just hoping against hope and delusional
I guess that's me. Let's make some changes to the OL before put it all on Howell and EB start running the fucking ball.
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I'm on the side of Howell is not it right now, anyone that says otherwise is just hoping against hope and delusional
I think he has the potential but he still needs to make the next step with progression/ timing

Still not there , may not got there

I will say give him the whole year , it’s a throw away year , we need to know is SH the guy or not

Next year Harris is really going sink his teeth in
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Old 10-22-2023, 04:40 PM   #4
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I think he has the potential but he still needs to make the next step with progression/ timing

Still not there , may not got there

I will say give him the whole year , it’s a throw away year , we need to know is SH the guy or not

Next year Harris is really going sink his teeth in
I give him the year and yeah he has potential, but like Brian Billick said, potential will get you fired.
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I'm on the side of Howell is not it right now, anyone that says otherwise is just hoping against hope and delusional
His pocket presence or lack are or can be drive killers. That is holding him back.
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His pocket presence or lack are or can be drive killers. That is holding him back.
And it started on the first drive of the game, that 3rd down crossing pattern was there and he just held it like a buffoon
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Old 10-22-2023, 04:19 PM   #7
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Agreed, but the liklihood is that JDR walks with him and probably a few of the D coaches. They'd have to have a DC lined up, plus cover for whoever else goes. If they've got this in hand, totally agree with firing Ron and JDR right now.
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Also remember some of SH success early may have been him being new, now Defenses have film on him and they are really dialing up on his weaknesses at this point

This game film isn’t going help him at all
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Also remember some of SH success early may have been him being new, now Defenses have film on him and they are really dialing up on his weaknesses at this point

This game film isn’t going help him at all
That is all standard for rookie QB's in the NFL. Here's a question for you: Do we have the coaching needed for Sam to get better?
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That is all standard for rookie QB's in the NFL. Here's a question for you: Do we have the coaching needed for Sam to get better?
NO WE DON'T. EB lacks creativity and does the same thing over and over.
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That is all standard for rookie QB's in the NFL. Here's a question for you: Do we have the coaching needed for Sam to get better?
I mean EB did pretty well with Mahomes development

The argument would be was it Mahomes or Andy or EB ; probably a snyergy of the 3 ; with the loin share coming from Andy / Mahomes
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That is all standard for rookie QB's in the NFL. Here's a question for you: Do we have the coaching needed for Sam to get better?
Howell is showing why he was a 5th round pick right now. His internal clock literally is the worst I've ever seen
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Howell is showing why he was a 5th round pick right now. His internal clock literally is the worst I've ever seen
If he doesn't figure it out re: his internal clock then he'll end up becoming a journeyman. He'll stick around because he has the tools, but he's gotta work on his pocket presence.
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If he doesn't figure it out re: his internal clock then he'll end up becoming a journeyman. He'll stick around because he has the tools, but he's gotta work on his pocket presence.
Exactly this was my pony earlier in the week , there literally has been zero improvement this year on his weakness; AGAIN a weakness that has plagued him since college

No coach is fixing it at this point , it’s on Sam
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Re: Giants Game Thread

There are maybe 15 guys on this team I would like to keep out if 53. Ron has made a bad team worse.

That is GM Ron.

Coach Ron is never able to out game plan anyone in the first half. His clock management skills and decisions in game are absolutely mind numbing.

Sam regressed in this game. Missed three throws in big spots but I think he is absolutely shell shocked at this point.

EB ran the same weak run play on first down all fucking day and is a big disappointment.

JDR gave up two early touchdowns to a team that couldn’t sniff the endzone since mid September. Woefully ill prepared like his partner in crime.

Our oline is a stinking pile of garbage. Leno is absolutely lost. Wylie should not even be on a practice squad. Gates is embarrassing himself. Two great pickups there by Ron.

Dotson is a bust.

We are an all around failure and if you want this rebuild to be expedited you will be happy to know we are picking top 5 in the draft with a competent fo and staff in place. That is the only good thing about this team right now. Snyder is gone and Harris will get an actual team in place. But throw us a bone and fire Ron tomorrow. Idc who the interim coach is. Show us that you care.
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