Redskins trade for Alex Smith

[mahomes]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I believe the Redskins are currently trying to trade Cousins.

I know I may be a smith critic but when you look at that trade you guys will hopefully score big for cousins. I would take cousins in a minute over smith but I understand his contract demands putting you off. We had a similar situation with houston. Waited too long to extend him now he makes almost brady money at outside lb. Knowing what a qb driven league it is I feel for skins fans such a tough spot no right answer. Sign cousins you payed too much let him walk and a potential if not already franchise qb leaves.

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by mahomes

I know I may be a smith critic but when you look at that trade you guys will hopefully score big for cousins. I would take cousins in a minute over smith but I understand his contract demands putting you off. We had a similar situation with houston. Waited too long to extend him now he makes almost brady money at outside lb. Knowing what a qb driven league it is I feel for skins fans such a tough spot no right answer. Sign cousins you payed too much let him walk and a potential if not already franchise qb leaves.

Well “Brady money” is less than $10M a year, since he gives the Patriots a huge hometown discount. Nice to have a wife that makes the big money...

Maybe you meant “Stafford money.” Lol

[sdskinsfan2001]

Pederson: I hate that we'll face Alex Smith twice a year - NFL.com

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Pederson: I hate that we'll face Alex Smith twice a year - NFL.com

"Washington is very fortunate to have a quarterback in Alex Smith. My year with him was one of my favorite years of football," Foles said. "Just being there in Kansas City, getting to work with him, seeing a guy that for some reason people critique all the time, I mean, the guy's a winner. I mean, look at him. Look at what he did this year and he just keeps coming. He keeps getting better."

That is a huge key, Smith is smart and can teach a young guy the ropes as well.

Also dude will be hungry to prove all the doubters wrong over the years.

[WillH]

It depends on what you mean by better. Do you mean better skilled, better future potential, or better value?

The distinction is important because based on all those factors, I would compare Kirk to Alex as very closely skilled, Kirk absolutely has better future potential, and Alex has better value in terms of cap value but when considering what we gave up for him it's probably at best a wash.

If you're just referring to skill, that is only part of the full picture (ie. I'd rather Wentz than Brady right now but only because of future potential), but I'll play along:

Brady
Brees
Luck
Wentz
Rothlisberger
Wilson
Rivers
Rodgers
Ryan

I think are all definitely better, but there are about 6-8 that are probably better (Cousins, Stafford, Goff, Carr, Newton, Palmer) , and another 4-6 that might be better (Manning, Keenum, Winston, Mariota, Watson)

He's about a top 15 QB.

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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by WillH

It depends on what you mean by better. Do you mean better skilled, better future potential, or better value?

The distinction is important because based on all those factors, I would compare Kirk to Alex as very closely skilled, Kirk absolutely has better future potential, and Alex has better value in terms of cap value but when considering what we gave up for him it's probably at best a wash.

If you're just referring to skill, that is only part of the full picture (ie. I'd rather Wentz than Brady right now but only because of future potential), but I'll play along:

Brady
Brees
Luck
Wentz
Rothlisberger
Wilson
Rivers
Rodgers
Ryan

I think are all definitely better, but there are about 6-8 that are probably better (Cousins, Stafford, Goff, Carr, Newton, Palmer) , and another 4-6 that might be better (Manning, Keenum, Winston, Mariota, Watson)

He's about a top 15 QB.

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I'm talking talent only.

I can agree on the 9 you listed, I'd even put Stafford with them.

All the others are close and debatable.

So yeah, we agree, Alex Smith is a top 15 to top 10 QB.

Isn't that what most of us here thought of Kirk. Maybe more top 12 to top 10?

So, set aside the age factor, I don't see how we clearly got worse at QB (for next season).

Anyway, keep in mind Kirk was gone anyway, and we clearly got the best QB available/gettable.
Didn't we ?

[MTK]

Cousins isn't getting traded. They would have to tag him first, and he would have to agree to sign the tag. Not happening.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

Cousins isn't getting traded. They would have to tag him first, and he would have to agree to sign the tag. Not happening.

Exactly.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by MTK

Cousins isn't getting traded. They would have to tag him first, and he would have to agree to sign the tag. Not happening.

Probably not, but there's a chance that the Broncos work out a deal with the Skins to sign and trade to avoid the bidding war and square away their QB position before FA.

There was apparently a bidding war for the Smith trade, so there's a hungry QB market willing to trade picks for the chance to sign a franchise QB long term.

Cousins would have to play ball, but if he likes the Broncos, maybe he also just wants to get it done.

It's very unlikely, but I don't think it's off the table.

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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by WillH

Probably not, but there's a chance that the Broncos work out a deal with the Skins to sign and trade to avoid the bidding war and square away their QB position before FA.

There was apparently a bidding war for the Smith trade, so there's a hungry QB market willing to trade picks for the chance to sign a franchise QB long term.

Cousins would have to play ball, but if he likes the Broncos, maybe he also just wants to get it done.

It's very unlikely, but I don't think it's off the table.

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Baically we would have to Tag him and trade right away, unlikely but u are right now a days who knows anymore?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by WillH

Probably not, but there's a chance that the Broncos work out a deal with the Skins to sign and trade to avoid the bidding war and square away their QB position before FA.

There was apparently a bidding war for the Smith trade, so there's a hungry QB market willing to trade picks for the chance to sign a franchise QB long term.

Cousins would have to play ball, but if he likes the Broncos, maybe he also just wants to get it done.

It's very unlikely, but I don't think it's off the table.

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If somehow we could pull this off, it would be some icy hot for the butthurt.

Plus it would be great just throw this in S10 face

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by MTK

Cousins isn't getting traded. They would have to tag him first, and he would have to agree to sign the tag. Not happening.

Article lays out the possibility of the transition tag.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247spor...-114412027/Amp

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Article lays out the possibility of the transition tag.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/247spor...-114412027/Amp

Why would Cousins agree to this?? Makes zero sense. And this article was out before the trade went down.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by MTK

Why would Cousins agree to this?? Makes zero sense. And this article was out before the trade went down.

It totally makes no sense to me either. However, Steve Gallo is saying that something might be in the works. This is the same guy who broke the news of Kendall Fuller being the PTBNL in the trade. I find it hard to believe it will happen, but man this would sweeten this deal so much.

https://twitter.com/stevegallonfl/st...7Ctwterm%255E0

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

It totally makes no sense to me either. However, Steve Gallo is saying that something might be in the works. This is the same guy who broke the news of Kendall Fuller being the PTBNL in the trade. I find it hard to believe it will happen, but man this would sweeten this deal so much.

https://twitter.com/stevegallonfl/st...7Ctwterm%255E0

Dream scenario is move Cousins to the Broncos for WR D Thomas.