Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

[tshile]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Then again, it takes me back to Terry Allen. If I remember correctly, the guy basically had both knees reconstructed at one point or another, but was still a very effective running back after the fact. So, the way I see it is, if you're going to have some major injuries, you should probably have them while you're young and able to bounce back faster, as opposed to the wrong side of 30 when things start slowing down a bit.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but respect for Terry Allen and watching him run is pretty much the start of my Redskins memories. So while he played quite well for a guy with two reconstructed knees, his career was 10 years.

The QB position is different than RB, but if Griffin only had a 10 year career that would suck, all things considered.

(Unless that 10 years included a super bowl or two )

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by tshile

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but respect for Terry Allen and watching him run is pretty much the start of my Redskins memories. So while he played quite well for a guy with two reconstructed knees, his career was 10 years.

The QB position is different than RB, but if Griffin only had a 10 year career that would suck, all things considered.

(Unless that 10 years included a super bowl or two )

If Griffin goes on to have 10 great years after this season, I'd be OK with that. But most certainly, I believe we, as fans, should be entitled to witnessing as many winning seasons as we've endured losing seasons. That would seem to justify the madness of sticking with this team through thick and thin.

[calia]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

If Griffin goes on to have 10 great years after this season, I'd be OK with that. But most certainly, I believe we, as fans, should be entitled to witnessing as many winning seasons as we've endured losing seasons. That would seem to justify the madness of sticking with this team through thick and thin.

Are you kidding? If we got 10 years out of RGIII, that would be astounding. Here's what I found in doing a little digging into Redskins QBs -- admittedly borrowed from Wikipedia -- they are listed in order of the date of each player's first start at quarterback for the Redskins. If we get RGIII for the next 10 years, he would be the second longest tenured QB after Slingin' Sammy. (Sonny was a Redskin for 11 years, although the last part of that was the whole Sonny/Billy thing, which are my first memories of being a Redskin fan).

Season(s)
Quarterback(s)

2013
Robert Griffin III (13) / Kirk Cousins (3)

2012
Robert Griffin III (15) / Kirk Cousins (1)

2011
Rex Grossman (13) / John Beck (3)

2010
Donovan McNabb (13) / Rex Grossman (3)

2009
Jason Campbell (16)

2008
Jason Campbell (16)

2007
Jason Campbell (13) / Todd Collins (3)

2006
Mark Brunell (9) / Jason Campbell (7)

2005
Mark Brunell (15) / Patrick Ramsey (1)

2004
Mark Brunell (9) / Patrick Ramsey (7)

2003
Patrick Ramsey (11) / Tim Hasselbeck (5)

2002
Shane Matthews (7) / Patrick Ramsey (5) / Danny Wuerffel (4)

2001
Tony Banks (14) / Jeff George (2)

2000
Brad Johnson (11) / Jeff George (5)

1999
Brad Johnson (16)

1998
Trent Green (14) / Gus Frerotte (2)

1997
Gus Frerotte (13) / Jeff Hostetler (3)

1996
Gus Frerotte (16)

1995
Gus Frerotte (11) / Heath Shuler (5)

1994
Heath Shuler (8) / John Friesz (4) / Gus Frerotte (4)

1993
Mark Rypien (10) / Rich Gannon (4) / Cary Conklin (2)

1992
Mark Rypien (16)

1991
Mark Rypien (16)

1990
Mark Rypien (10) / Stan Humphries (5) / Jeff Rutledge (1)

1989
Mark Rypien (14) / Doug Williams (2)

1988
Doug Williams (10) / Mark Rypien (6)

1987
Jay Schroeder (10) / Ed Rubbert (3) / Doug Williams (2)

1986
Jay Schroeder (16)

1985
Joe Theismann (11) / Jay Schroeder (5)

1984
Joe Theismann (16)

1983
Joe Theismann (16)

1982
Joe Theismann (9)

1981
Joe Theismann (16)

1980
Joe Theismann (15) / Mike Kruczek (1)

1979
Joe Theismann (16)

1978
Joe Theismann (14) / Billy Kilmer (2)

1977
Billy Kilmer (8) / Joe Theismann (6)

1976
Billy Kilmer (9) / Joe Theismann (5)

1975
Billy Kilmer (12) / Randy Johnson (2)

1974
Billy Kilmer (10) / Sonny Jurgensen (4)

1973
Billy Kilmer (10) / Sonny Jurgensen (4)

1972
Billy Kilmer (10) / Sonny Jurgensen (4)

1971
Billy Kilmer (13) / Sonny Jurgensen (1)

1970
Sonny Jurgensen (14)

1969
Sonny Jurgensen (14)

1968
Sonny Jurgensen (12) / Jim Ninowski (2)

1967
Sonny Jurgensen (14)

1966
Sonny Jurgensen (14)

1965
Sonny Jurgensen (13) / Dick Shiner (1)

1964
Sonny Jurgensen (14)

1963
Norm Snead (14)

1962
Norm Snead (14)

1961
Norm Snead (14)

1960
Ralph Guglielmi (11) / Eagle Day (1)

1959
Eddie LeBaron (8) / Ralph Guglielmi (4)

1958
Eddie LeBaron (12) / Ralph Guglielmi (2)

1957
Eddie LeBaron (12)

1956
Al Dorow (7) / Eddie LeBaron (5)

1955
Eddie LeBaron (8) / Ralph Guglielmi (3) / Al Dorow (1)

1954
Jack Scarbath (7) / Al Dorow (5)

1953
Jack Scarbath (7) / Eddie LeBaron (5)

1952
Eddie LeBaron (7) / Sammy Baugh (5)

1951
Sammy Baugh (9) / Harry Gilmer (3)

1950
Sammy Baugh (7) / Harry Gilmer (5)

1949
Sammy Baugh (8) / Harry Gilmer (3)

1948
Sammy Baugh (3) / Tommy Mont (2)

1947
Sammy Baugh (1) / Jim Youel (5)

1946
Jim Youel (4) / Sammy Baugh (2) / Jack Jacobs (2)

1945
Sammy Baugh (8)

1944
Frank Filchock (6) / Sammy Baugh (4)

1943
Sammy Baugh (7) / George Cafego (3)

1942
Sammy Baugh (8) / Roy Zimmerman (American football) (1)

1941
Frank Filchock (10) / Sammy Baugh (1)

1940
Sammy Baugh (11)

1939
Frank Filchock (9) / Sammy Baugh (1) / Jim German (1)

1938
Bill Hartman (4) / Sammy Baugh (3) / Frank Filchock (2)

1937
Sammy Baugh (5)

1936
Eddie Britt (5) / Ed Smith (4)

1935
Pug Rentner (6) / Bill Shepherd (6)

1934
Steve Hokuf (9) / Pug Rentner (2)

1933
Jim Musick (11)

1932
Hank Hughes (9)

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Then again, it takes me back to Terry Allen. If I remember correctly, the guy basically had both knees reconstructed at one point or another, but was still a very effective running back after the fact. So, the way I see it is, if you're going to have some major injuries, you should probably have them while you're young and able to bounce back faster, as opposed to the wrong side of 30 when things start slowing down a bit.

On top of beating this injury bug, he still has to become a very good to great QB. We'll see..

[Lotus]

RGIII practicing again.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/redskin...1959--nfl.html

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

On top of beating this injury bug, he still has to become a very good to great QB. We'll see..

Robert has talent that can be developed and carry him until he matures. You can't develop talent that is not there.

Brady and Manning have talent first, they take a cerebral approach. That fools people into thinking all they need is a cerebral approach. Nope!!! You might get away with that against Jacksonville but one sack fumble and then it is back to reality.

There is only 1 Manning and 1 Brady. There are dozens of Schaubs, Grossmans, and Bradfords.

[Gary84Clark]

He is young.




QB birthday
month year
--------------------------
Dalton October 1987
Kaepernick November 1987
Tannehil July 1988
Cousins August 1988
Wilson November 1988
Foles January 1989
Newton May 1989
Luck September 1989


RG3 February 1990 *****2012 NFL Offensive Rookie of the year****

[Hog1]

Robert's head is hard as nails....unshakeable
Unfortunately his body has become suspect....we'll see

[Chico23231]

Still cant believe we just dumped Brad Johnson after that season, just a terrible FO move thats all on Snyder

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Still cant believe we just dumped Brad Johnson after that season, just a terrible FO move thats all on Snyder

Snyder had a hard on for Jeff George. Johnson had the last laugh.

[Gary84Clark]

The RG3 pick was vetted a million times before the pick was made. That was a scientific pick. Let the young fella mature. We could always sign Schaub if we want the next drop back passer.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

The RG3 pick was vetted a million times before the pick was made. That was a scientific pick. Let the young fella mature. We could always sign Schaub if we want the next drop back passer.

You make an excellent point here. I believe that he can be outstanding in time and very good soon. I mean, what tool doesn't he have? He's highly intelligent and hard working; therefore, he will learn to play the way he needs to play in the NFL.

As always, the only caveat is his propensity to get injured. To me, he is like a gazelle running in a buffalo herd; the gazelle is bound to get hurt.

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

You make an excellent point here. I believe that he can be outstanding in time and very good soon. I mean, what tool doesn't he have? He's highly intelligent and hard working; therefore, he will learn to play the way he needs to play in the NFL.

As always, the only caveat is his propensity to get injured. To me, he is like a gazelle running in a buffalo herd; the gazelle is bound to get hurt.

Yes sir, this is what I keep telling myself. Was just saying so at dinner the other night and how much I want RG to be the NFL's next great comeback story.

He needs to play smarter though, in several ways. Protect the football and his body.

Hello Warpath, been reading here a long time and finally decided to chime in!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

You make an excellent point here. I believe that he can be outstanding in time and very good soon. I mean, what tool doesn't he have? He's highly intelligent and hard working; therefore, he will learn to play the way he needs to play in the NFL.

As always, the only caveat is his propensity to get injured. To me, he is like a gazelle running in a buffalo herd; the gazelle is bound to get hurt.

He hasn't shown that he can run a real NFL offense. A lot of guys can look good in shorts tossing the ball around. But can he convert 3rd downs, stop taking sacks and learn to stay patient in the pocket? I'd like to see theses things when he comes back, plus a little read option.

[Lotus]

When RGIII got hurt, it looked like he was starting to "get" the offense. I think he comes back rusty for a week or two and then lights it up.