Talent Evaluation?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by offiss

Well I like our cheerleaders. :headbange


In all seriousness, I am one of the guy's who does like Snyder, we have an owner who will do whatever to win, how many teams can say that? Further more he has handed the reigns over to Gibbs and allowed the buck to stop with him, to blame Snyder right now is popular but not fair.

I like G.Williams, tremendous coach, as for the players Cooley, Moss, Taylor, Washington, C.Clemons, Clark, Griffen, and of coarse both of our favorite, Ramsey. There are plenty of others I just usually focus in on the big money guy's who play like minimum wage players.

and yes I was kidding around about Dayne, I actually had a good laugh when I saw how many guys took that serious, sorry for the confusion.

Not sure why you dislike coach Gibbs so much, but you have your opinion. I will agree that Snyder has done what he thought was necessary to try to bring this team back to its winning ways, but up to this point, he has made all the wrong moves. I believe Snyder is finally starting to grow as an NFL owner and I believe he has learned alot of hard lessons since his first year in the league.

[skins052bgr8]

I believe he was being sarcastic, with the way we have traded in the past. This offseason should tell alot, if we do not go after a good pass rushing DE in Free Agency I will have to throw in the towel on our handling of personnel. Not all bad but we are getting ripped even on the good deals. Moss has worked out, but at the expense of 9 mil where we could have picked up more talent or kept either Pierce or Smoot.

[skinsttw]

I think losing Pierce really hurt the D. We give up too many big plays late in the game.
The O line is still disappointing. We cannot grind out the 1st downs when we have
the lead. We need to build through the draft, especially D line.

[irish]

It becomes more and more obvious that the skins need a GM. They will continue to flounder until they fill this position.

[MTK]

I agree we need to draft better especially in the later rounds where critical depth is built, but can anyone really argue with the majority of the player acquisitions since Gibbs came back?

From a pure talent standpoint, the team has been significantly upgraded with guys like Washington, Griffin, Moss, Portis, Springs, Brunell, etc, and these are players that have produced at Pro Bowl levels to boot.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I agree we need to draft better especially in the later rounds where critical depth is built, but can anyone really argue with the majority of the player acquisitions since Gibbs came back?

From a pure talent standpoint, the team has been significantly upgraded with guys like Washington, Griffin, Moss, Portis, Springs, Brunell, etc, and these are players that have produced at Pro Bowl levels to boot.

Matty, until we start winning, all those names mean nothing.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Matty, until we start winning, all those names mean nothing.

It certainly means something if we're going to sit here and say the talent level is a problem, which I'd argue it's not our main problem right now.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It certainly means something if we're going to sit here and say the talent level is a problem, which I'd argue it's not our main problem right now.

Yes, our main problem lately is the offense's inability to add crucial points to small leads late in the game when the defense is tired and vulnerable.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It certainly means something if we're going to sit here and say the talent level is a problem, which I'd argue it's not our main problem right now.

Since those guys arrived, this team has amassed a record of 11-16. That's what the players you mentioned have meant to this team. My criticism of Snyder and Cerrato is directed more to the players they've collected that surround that talent.

[ultimateskinsfan]

I altimately think C.Casserly will be fired in houston in the offseason, if so what does everyone think about the possibilty of him coming back to Washington.

Not related but I think the skins biggest problem is they need to take more chances in games, and not try to rely on the deffense to win every game, because as we all know it is not working. They have to put each and every team they play away and not let them hang around every freekin week.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Since those guys arrived, this team has amassed a record of 11-16. That's what the players you mentioned have meant to this team. My criticism of Snyder and Cerrato is directed more to the players they've collected that surround that talent.

That has been a consistently held belief in the Redskins' front office. Unfortunately, constantly turning the roster over alienates veterans, disrupts team chemistry, and kills a cap. I think we can get a lot more out of these guys if we give them time and trust. Look at what Shotty did with a God-awful roster in 2001. I'm willing to give Gibbs another season to get re-acquainted with the NFL and bring this team to the playoffs.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Since those guys arrived, this team has amassed a record of 11-16. That's what the players you mentioned have meant to this team. My criticism of Snyder and Cerrato is directed more to the players they've collected that surround that talent.

Well, the season isn't over with, and if we amass a 16-16 record after two seasons of rebuilding this team, that is certainly a step in the right direction.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I agree we need to draft better especially in the later rounds where critical depth is built, but can anyone really argue with the majority of the player acquisitions since Gibbs came back?

From a pure talent standpoint, the team has been significantly upgraded with guys like Washington, Griffin, Moss, Portis, Springs, Brunell, etc, and these are players that have produced at Pro Bowl levels to boot.

How are we going to draft better when we dont have any early round picks? This team gives away draft picks like Santa Claus gives away presents.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

How are we going to draft better when we dont have any early round picks? This team gives away draft picks like Santa Claus gives away presents.

Well, according to a lot of the "draft experts" around here the early picks are easy.

It's the later ones that we need improving on.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Well, according to a lot of the "draft experts" around here the early picks are easy.

It's the later ones that we need improving on.

I dont see the skins getting any real impact players in the later rounds. Why make it hard for themselves, just hang on to all your picks and grab the low hanging draft fruit thats "easy" to pick and hopr for the best with the less "easy" picks.