Pro Football Hall of Fame releases list of possible 2006 Inductees

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Herb Mul-Key robbed again

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

I believe Aikman is a Hall of Fame player, but a QB who holds no records, never dominated statistically, and was surrounded by as much talent as he was isn't a "lead pipe lock" for the Hall on his first ballot.

This isn't a "Slam Aikman" feeling - he plays an overvalued position, and while he was very good at it, I don't know that he was dominant in his era at the position. He should and will be inducted, but he's no slam dunk.

You sort of bring up an interesting point about Aikman. Aikman was efficient, not necessarily a star. His teams usually had the lead going into the final quarter so he never really had to dig deep and pull out some miraculous comeback, a la Elway. So should that be held against him?

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

I believe Aikman is a Hall of Fame player, but a QB who holds no records, never dominated statistically, and was surrounded by as much talent as he was isn't a "lead pipe lock" for the Hall on his first ballot.

This isn't a "Slam Aikman" feeling - he plays an overvalued position, and while he was very good at it, I don't know that he was dominant in his era at the position. He should and will be inducted, but he's no slam dunk.

I agree, if any QB deserves to make it this year it should be Moon. Look at his stats, he was a great QB on shity teams.

Passing Attempts: 6823
Passing Comp: 3988
Comp %: 58.4%
Passing Yards: 49325
Passing TD: 291

For each catagory this is where he is ranked among the others.
Passing Attempts: 4th, only Favre, Elway, Marino ahead of him
Passing Comp: 4th, with the same 3 ahead of him
Passing Yards: 4th, with the same 3 ahead of him
Passing TD: 5th, with the same 3 ahead of him plus Tarkenton

So if you look at the company he is with, he is more than deserving of a 1st time ballot to make the HOF.

All of my information was taken from this web site:
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/MoonWa00.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/misc/ptd.htm

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

I believe Aikman is a Hall of Fame player, but a QB who holds no records, never dominated statistically, and was surrounded by as much talent as he was isn't a "lead pipe lock" for the Hall on his first ballot.

This isn't a "Slam Aikman" feeling - he plays an overvalued position, and while he was very good at it, I don't know that he was dominant in his era at the position. He should and will be inducted, but he's no slam dunk.

It is as you say, QB is a very public and overvalued position. Nevertheless, the offensive leader of a true dynasty (no free agancy crap ala the patriots) with three rings - one SB MVP - who we still see every week on TV, (and isn't making an a$$ of himself like Irvin) is getting in first ballot slam dunk, thanks for coming, who do we vote on next?

Monk should be in as should Irvin. I don't wanna throw the race card in but.....

I don't want to get into the HOF argument, cause there are a lot of people who think that with 5 rings, the Cowboys should have more players in the Hall. I don't know.

[That Guy]

monk leads irvin in every category (yards, TDs, he also has 3 SB rings), so you do agree monk should go in first?

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

It is as you say, QB is a very public and overvalued position. Nevertheless, the offensive leader of a true dynasty (no free agancy crap ala the patriots) with three rings - one SB MVP - who we still see every week on TV, (and isn't making an a$$ of himself like Irvin) is getting in first ballot slam dunk, thanks for coming, who do we vote on next?

Monk should be in as should Irvin. I don't wanna throw the race card in but.....

I don't want to get into the HOF argument, cause there are a lot of people who think that with 5 rings, the Cowboys should have more players in the Hall. I don't know.

Thats right you don't know...

[jhold4th]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

It is as you say, QB is a very public and overvalued position. Nevertheless, the offensive leader of a true dynasty (no free agancy crap ala the patriots) .

A truly bitter Cboy fan.

Salary cap dynasty of the Pats is amazing.

Proving to me that Belichek was needed by Parcells much like Buiddy Ryan was needed by Ditka.

[skinsguy]

Too bad when I sign it, it brings up a page not found! Conspiracy I tell ya!

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by That Guy

monk leads irvin in every category (yards, TDs, he also has 3 SB rings), so you do agree monk should go in first?

Monk should probably go in first, but he has been on the ballot a bit so that starts to count against you.

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Thats right you don't know...

Stimulating response.
I'm not a big HOF guy. Not really my thing.

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by jhold4th

A truly bitter Cboy fan.

Salary cap dynasty of the Pats is amazing.

Proving to me that Belichek was needed by Parcells much like Buiddy Ryan was needed by Ditka.

The SB champions of new FA era are the weakest in the history of the league.

The Rams? The Ravens? The Patriots first SB when even Belichek was amazed that they won?

Buddy Ryan didn't win much without Ditka either.

Let's see how Belichek does without HIS very important Coordinators - Crennell and Weis - two men who ALSO learned at the feet of Parcells.

[jhold4th]

I'm thinking Parcells misses Belichek rather than visa versa.

On Bill has 2 SB rings

The other 5

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by jhold4th

I'm thinking Parcells misses Belichek rather than visa versa.

On Bill has 2 SB rings

The other 5

Really, if you want to look at it the way they look at it; one has 3 - as a head coach - the other has two. For now.

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OK, I just signed.

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Brud Dude
I think I signed. Can you check?

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