Ramsey for Abraham

56FAN · 10-20-2005, 01:06 PM

abraham is very talented, but he does have injury concerns and some what of a coles type personality (moody). but i don't know that we could get any better for ramsey.
but my point is after we get abraham we have to lock him up with a big contract. my concern is the coles like factor and the injuries. this is one i would leave to the coach.

MTK · 10-20-2005, 02:19 PM

Is Abraham the kind of guy that would fit in with a Gibbs team?

I mean this is a guy who sat himself down last year during the playoffs for fear of blowing his big potential payday as a free agent.

EternalEnigma21 · 10-20-2005, 04:59 PM

I don't like much about the jets team anymore. I think I'd take a Ramsey/Lavar for Abraham/Vilma though.... not to say that I dont like Lavar or anything, but if we're just not gonna use the guy...

memphisskin · 10-20-2005, 05:54 PM

I'd think there'd be no way we could do a two for one, but Ramsey and Thomas or Arrington is idiotic. I think it's just the NJ paper trying to spark some talk. If we do another two for one and if one of our two is Thomas or Arrington, unless the one we get back is Julius Peppers or a young Michael Strahan then I say we pass.

I say no more gift wrapped trades. Outside of the Coles for Moss swap, I mean what's the last trade that we won?

Moss for Coles - It's early, but so far Moss has had a greater impact in 5 games than Coles did in 2 years so SKINS

wolfeskins · 10-20-2005, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dblanch66

We won't be trading Lavar. His cap hit is huge and we can't afford to do it 2 years in a row.

it could happen, we could give them ramsey and arrington for abraham and lots of cash.
or if lavar agrees to give back a portion of his signing bonus.

5RINGS · 10-20-2005, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Is Abraham the kind of guy that would fit in with a Gibbs team?

I mean this is a guy who sat himself down last year during the playoffs for fear of blowing his big potential payday as a free agent.

Abraham would work if he could fit with Williams. I doubt he could. If he can't get along with nice guy Herman Edwards then......

5RINGS · 10-20-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by memphisskin

I'd think there'd be no way we could do a two for one, but Ramsey and Thomas or Arrington is idiotic. I think it's just the NJ paper trying to spark some talk. If we do another two for one and if one of our two is Thomas or Arrington, unless the one we get back is Julius Peppers or a young Michael Strahan then I say we pass.

I say no more gift wrapped trades. Outside of the Coles for Moss swap, I mean what's the last trade that we won?

Moss for Coles - It's early, but so far Moss has had a greater impact in 5 games than Coles did in 2 years so SKINS

Pass rushers over 30 don't really ever get what they are worth, but I don't think it is a stretch to give up LA and Ramsey. Dominant edge ass rushers are as rare as lockdown Left Tackles so giving up two players who are not starting isn't asking a lot. Although why Arrington isn't starting is another question altogether.

steveo395 · 10-20-2005, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Pass rushers over 30 don't really ever get what they are worth, but I don't think it is a stretch to give up LA and Ramsey. Dominant edge ass rushers are as rare as lockdown Left Tackles so giving up two players who are not starting isn't asking a lot. Although why Arrington isn't starting is another question altogether.

yea i guess dominant ass rushers are pretty rare

Riggo44 · 10-20-2005, 09:46 PM

We will not trade Ramsey untill the off season. You can take that to the bank.

skinsfanthru&thru · 10-20-2005, 11:08 PM

How the heck did Randy's name suddenly become involved with the trade rumors? The finacial cost and stupidity of that move would be enormous.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-20-2005, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by steveo395

yea i guess dominant ass rushers are pretty rare

I have been working in a federal prison this semester and I don't think that dominant ass rushers are all that rare.

SUNRA · 10-20-2005, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

How the heck did Randy's name suddenly become involved with the trade rumors? The finacial cost and stupidity of that move would be enormous.

The Star Ledger newspaper in New Jersey reported the subject of Phillip Rivers and Ramsey were on the short list of the Jets. The article mentioned Lavar and Abraham and it also discussed how the Jets have shared a history with the Redskins going back to some guy named John Riggins. I think anything is possible and for the right money Abraham or somebody else will play for the Redskins.

MTK · 10-20-2005, 11:59 PM

If I'm the Jets I'm going after Rivers over Ramsey any day.

FRPLG · 10-21-2005, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If I'm the Jets I'm going after Rivers over Ramsey any day.

MOney wise yeah he makes ense since his cap hit and contract are better situations. But then your trading something,, probably of pretty good value, for something completely unproven. At least Ramsey has shown that he can do the job giving the right circumstances.

56FAN · 10-21-2005, 12:54 PM

Yea the chrgrs are going to want a boat load of cash to off set that 14 mil signing bonus.lavar has got to stay, i believe that he's about to embark on the best part of his career.. randy would cost us and is our best guard.and with dockery still somewhat of a question mark in short yardage. i don't think you get rid of your best guard like that.if we had traded for fonoti like i wanted them to then that could have been a possiblity.but the 42 yr old is gone next year and that leaves us with very questionable depth behind thomas and dockery.

10-20-2005, 01:06 PM	#16
56FAN Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MANASSAS VA Age: 62 Posts: 323	Re: Ramsey for Abraham abraham is very talented, but he does have injury concerns and some what of a coles type personality (moody). but i don't know that we could get any better for ramsey. but my point is after we get abraham we have to lock him up with a big contract. my concern is the coles like factor and the injuries. this is one i would leave to the coach.

10-20-2005, 02:19 PM	#17
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Ramsey for Abraham Is Abraham the kind of guy that would fit in with a Gibbs team? I mean this is a guy who sat himself down last year during the playoffs for fear of blowing his big potential payday as a free agent.

10-20-2005, 04:59 PM	#18
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 44 Posts: 2,958	Re: Ramsey for Abraham I don't like much about the jets team anymore. I think I'd take a Ramsey/Lavar for Abraham/Vilma though.... not to say that I dont like Lavar or anything, but if we're just not gonna use the guy...

10-20-2005, 05:54 PM	#19
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Re: Ramsey for Abraham I'd think there'd be no way we could do a two for one, but Ramsey and Thomas or Arrington is idiotic. I think it's just the NJ paper trying to spark some talk. If we do another two for one and if one of our two is Thomas or Arrington, unless the one we get back is Julius Peppers or a young Michael Strahan then I say we pass. I say no more gift wrapped trades. Outside of the Coles for Moss swap, I mean what's the last trade that we won? Moss for Coles - It's early, but so far Moss has had a greater impact in 5 games than Coles did in 2 years so SKINS

10-20-2005, 09:46 PM	#24
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	Re: Ramsey for Abraham We will not trade Ramsey untill the off season. You can take that to the bank. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

10-20-2005, 11:08 PM	#25
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	Re: Ramsey for Abraham How the heck did Randy's name suddenly become involved with the trade rumors? The finacial cost and stupidity of that move would be enormous.

10-20-2005, 11:59 PM	#28
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Ramsey for Abraham If I'm the Jets I'm going after Rivers over Ramsey any day.

10-21-2005, 12:54 PM	#30
56FAN Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MANASSAS VA Age: 62 Posts: 323	Re: Ramsey for Abraham Yea the chrgrs are going to want a boat load of cash to off set that 14 mil signing bonus.lavar has got to stay, i believe that he's about to embark on the best part of his career.. randy would cost us and is our best guard.and with dockery still somewhat of a question mark in short yardage. i don't think you get rid of your best guard like that.if we had traded for fonoti like i wanted them to then that could have been a possiblity.but the 42 yr old is gone next year and that leaves us with very questionable depth behind thomas and dockery.

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