Around the NFL Week 15

Ruhskins · 12-15-2023, 01:11 PM

Per Schefter, Chargers have fired Staley (and the GM)

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AnonEmouse · 12-15-2023, 01:45 PM

What a surprise...

Wonder if this makes Chargers (LA market) a better option for a top coach than us come January?

Chief X_Phackter · 12-15-2023, 01:53 PM

Yes.

Ruhskins · 12-15-2023, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

What a surprise...

Wonder if this makes Chargers (LA market) a better option for a top coach than us come January?

Yes and No.

Pros: team has a established QB and offensive weapons (K. Allen Ekeler, etc.,. etc.). They also have key players in the defense (Bosa, etc., etc.).

Cons: tough division, win-now expectations, coach/GM will need to work with existing roster/players.

rocnrik · 12-15-2023, 02:12 PM

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Herbert is out for the season. That was their back up playing yesterday.

.. wow thanks did not know that .. makes sense now !

Chief X_Phackter · 12-15-2023, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Yes and No.

Pros: team has a established QB and offensive weapons (K. Allen Ekeler, etc.,. etc.). They also have key players in the defense (Bosa, etc., etc.).

Cons: tough division, win-now expectations, coach/GM will need to work with existing roster/players.

I don't understand how the Cons you mention would make LA a less desirable destination. The AFC West isn't any tougher than the NFC East if we're talking about the top 3. Every team wants to "win now". The new GM/Coach here will have to work with the existing roster/players too.

There's a lot more work to be done here in my opinion before this team is a contender. LA just needs a HC who can get out of his own way.

EdmundDorf · 12-15-2023, 03:38 PM

The owner there has a bit of a reputation for being cheap when it comes to hiring coaches. Could have had Sean Payton last year. I don't know Harris' record on hiring when it comes to paying coaches but that will play a part and may make good candidates think twice about the Chargers, that and the fact they will always be the junior partner to the Rams whilst they share that stadium

Ruhskins · 12-15-2023, 03:49 PM

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I don't understand how the Cons you mention would make LA a less desirable destination. The AFC West isn't any tougher than the NFC East if we're talking about the top 3. Every team wants to "win now". The new GM/Coach here will have to work with the existing roster/players too.

There's a lot more work to be done here in my opinion before this team is a contender. LA just needs a HC who can get out of his own way.

The tough division part was taken from a recent ESPN article, but you're right, NFC East is probably tougher.

Chargers have had relative success compared to our team. We are going to be in a rebuilding mode, and I don't think anyone realistically expects our team to be a playoff contender right away. I'm not saying we shouldn't, but the new Chargers HC will have a shorter leash since they are not rebuilding and have seen recent success.

And yes, the new GM/HC here will need to work with existing players, but the advantage of being on rebuild mode is that there are no realistic expectations to keep any player. I highly doubt that a new Chargers GM/Coach will be able to easily move on from Herbert or Bosa, whereas the new GM/Coach here will be able to do pretty much anything with the existing roster.

skinsfaninok · 12-16-2023, 07:29 PM

The colts have also turned their franchise around in a very short time span. It’s all about Coaching and QB play. Mindshew has been awesome lately.

Sam Howell is going to be legit if they can build around him.

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SFREDSKIN · 12-17-2023, 04:41 PM

Montez Sweat 12.5 sacks and counting.

skinsfaninok · 12-17-2023, 08:12 PM

Dallas = Frauds

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skinsfaninok · 12-17-2023, 08:13 PM

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Montez Sweat 12.5 sacks and counting.

We knew he was better than CY. But I’m glad they traded him

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WCommandersfan99 · 12-17-2023, 09:20 PM

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Dallas = Frauds

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What a beautiful throttling the Bills handed Dallas today. Still think Buffalo could be dangerous in the playoffs. James Cook is a stud.

WCommandersfan99 · 12-17-2023, 09:22 PM

Tonight could be a good one. Would be a big victory for either team. All of the AFC will be rooting for Jacksonville except Ravens' fans.

sdskinsfan2001 · 12-17-2023, 10:45 PM

Jaguars actively trying to lose. 2 missed FGs, unforced fumble, then threw short of the endzone.

12-15-2023, 01:11 PM	#16
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,331	Re: Around the NFL Week 15 Per Schefter, Chargers have fired Staley (and the GM) Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk __________________ R.I.P. #21

12-15-2023, 01:45 PM	#17
AnonEmouse The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 58 Posts: 2,413	Re: Around the NFL Week 15 What a surprise... Wonder if this makes Chargers (LA market) a better option for a top coach than us come January?

12-15-2023, 01:53 PM	#18
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,595	Re: Around the NFL Week 15 Yes.

12-15-2023, 03:38 PM	#22
EdmundDorf The Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK, South Posts: 1,926	Re: Around the NFL Week 15 The owner there has a bit of a reputation for being cheap when it comes to hiring coaches. Could have had Sean Payton last year. I don't know Harris' record on hiring when it comes to paying coaches but that will play a part and may make good candidates think twice about the Chargers, that and the fact they will always be the junior partner to the Rams whilst they share that stadium

12-16-2023, 07:29 PM	#24
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,113	Re: Around the NFL Week 15 The colts have also turned their franchise around in a very short time span. It’s all about Coaching and QB play. Mindshew has been awesome lately. Sam Howell is going to be legit if they can build around him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-17-2023, 04:41 PM	#25
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Around the NFL Week 15 Montez Sweat 12.5 sacks and counting. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth Last edited by SFREDSKIN; 12-17-2023 at 05:00 PM.

12-17-2023, 08:12 PM	#26
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,113	Re: Around the NFL Week 15 Dallas = Frauds Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-17-2023, 09:22 PM	#29
WCommandersfan99 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,481	Re: Around the NFL Week 15 Tonight could be a good one. Would be a big victory for either team. All of the AFC will be rooting for Jacksonville except Ravens' fans.

12-17-2023, 10:45 PM	#30
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 19,999	Re: Around the NFL Week 15 Jaguars actively trying to lose. 2 missed FGs, unforced fumble, then threw short of the endzone. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

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