Hard knocks 2015 texans

Schneed10 · 08-12-2015, 03:20 PM

Let's not get carried away with the Bill O'Brien love based on a pre training camp speech, or anything else we see on Hard Knocks (again, it's training camp).

I don't think Gibbs would have been a darling on HK, but he could manage people and he could adjust at halftime like the best of them. Speeches on HK don't impress me.

mredskins · 08-12-2015, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Let's not get carried away with the Bill O'Brien love based on a pre training camp speech, or anything else we see on Hard Knocks (again, it's training camp).

I don't think Gibbs would have been a darling on HK, but he could manage people and he could adjust at halftime like the best of them. Speeches on HK don't impress me.

I rather have Bill over Jay before ever hearing a HK speech from Bill. I am willing to bet Bill is the coach of Houston next year and Jay is working at Taco Bell with RGIII.

DYoungJelly · 08-12-2015, 04:49 PM

Pierre Garcon Steps to J.J. Watt on 'Hard Knocks,' Gives Him a New NSFW Name | Bleacher Report

Garcon!

MTK · 08-12-2015, 04:53 PM

When did O'Brien become this superstar head coach??

SirLK26 · 08-12-2015, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Pierre Garcon Steps to J.J. Watt on 'Hard Knocks,' Gives Him a New NSFW Name | Bleacher Report

Garcon!

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And that is how a tiny scatback called the scariest man in the NFL a "f--k boy" and lived to tell the tale. For now.

Bleacher Report at its finest.

The Fantasy Greek · 08-12-2015, 05:35 PM

Thought it was a great show too. Several players on that team you gotta like including Watt and DeAndre Hopkins. The coach is a solid guy too.

Giantone · 08-12-2015, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

When did O'Brien become this superstar head coach??

...... post #9 and 10 of this thread .

skinsfan69 · 08-12-2015, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

When did O'Brien become this superstar head coach??

No one said he was a superstar. Just that he's probably a better HC than Gruden. He did a hell of a job at PSU and went 9-7 with no QB last year.

JoeRedskin · 08-12-2015, 07:02 PM

I know O'Brien was highly sought after, but I just don't see it.

Yes, he went 9-7 last year, but here's who they beat:
Tennessee (twice) (2-14)
Jax (twice) (3-13)
Oak (3-13)
Us (4-12)
Cleveland (7-9)
Buffalo (9-7)
Baltimore (10-6)

So six of the wins came against teams with double digit losses and only one was against a team with double digit wins. Yes, a win is a win, but that looks like a pretty padded schedule to me.

And, yeah, Penn State was a tough gig, but, after year one he says ""I’m not a one-and-done guy. I made a commitment to these players at Penn State and that’s what I am going to do. I’m not gonna cut and run after one year, that’s for sure." Then, after year two, he's quits for the Texans job. So, one year = not living up to commitment, but two years = living up to your commitment. I mean, technically, he did what he said, but, in my mind anyway, he sure as hell did not live up to the spirit of his words or to his supposed "commitment to th[e] players at Penn State." I am really not a fan of these "I'm deeply committed to this franchise/college -- until I get a better offer" coaches.

He may end up living to his rep, but I am unimpressed to date.

MTK · 08-12-2015, 07:41 PM

Just not getting the O'Brien circle jerk, let's see what he does after a few years.

mredskins · 08-12-2015, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

No one said he was a superstar. Just that he's probably a better HC than Gruden. He did a hell of a job at PSU and went 9-7 with no QB last year.

This, I am willing to bet Bill is employed longer then Jay.

mredskins · 08-12-2015, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Just not getting the O'Brien circle jerk, let's see what he does after a few years.

Why are you so against him? Did he kick kick your grandma?

MTK · 08-12-2015, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

Why are you so against him? Did he kick kick your grandma?

I've got nothing against him, just don't get all the man love going on for a 2nd year HC.

mredskins · 08-12-2015, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I've got nothing against him, just don't get all the man love going on for a 2nd year HC.

I am not saying he is Vince L. but I like him over Jay. Anyone ever checkout Jays past? They guy is a career UFL and Arena football coaching star. Oh wow!

30gut · 08-12-2015, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

...... post #9 and 10 of this thread .

Lol, really? That's all it takes?

08-12-2015, 03:20 PM	#16
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: Hard knocks 2015 texans Let's not get carried away with the Bill O'Brien love based on a pre training camp speech, or anything else we see on Hard Knocks (again, it's training camp). I don't think Gibbs would have been a darling on HK, but he could manage people and he could adjust at halftime like the best of them. Speeches on HK don't impress me. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

08-12-2015, 04:49 PM	#18
DYoungJelly The Starter Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,300	Re: Hard knocks 2015 texans Pierre Garcon Steps to J.J. Watt on 'Hard Knocks,' Gives Him a New NSFW Name \| Bleacher Report Garcon!

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The Fantasy Greek Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1	Re: Hard knocks 2015 texans Thought it was a great show too. Several players on that team you gotta like including Watt and DeAndre Hopkins. The coach is a solid guy too.

08-12-2015, 07:02 PM	#24
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 61 Posts: 10,401	Re: Hard knocks 2015 texans I know O'Brien was highly sought after, but I just don't see it. Yes, he went 9-7 last year, but here's who they beat: Tennessee (twice) (2-14) Jax (twice) (3-13) Oak (3-13) Us (4-12) Cleveland (7-9) Buffalo (9-7) Baltimore (10-6) So six of the wins came against teams with double digit losses and only one was against a team with double digit wins. Yes, a win is a win, but that looks like a pretty padded schedule to me. And, yeah, Penn State was a tough gig, but, after year one he says ""I’m not a one-and-done guy. I made a commitment to these players at Penn State and that’s what I am going to do. I’m not gonna cut and run after one year, that’s for sure." Then, after year two, he's quits for the Texans job. So, one year = not living up to commitment, but two years = living up to your commitment. I mean, technically, he did what he said, but, in my mind anyway, he sure as hell did not live up to the spirit of his words or to his supposed "commitment to th[e] players at Penn State." I am really not a fan of these "I'm deeply committed to this franchise/college -- until I get a better offer" coaches. He may end up living to his rep, but I am unimpressed to date. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

08-12-2015, 07:41 PM	#25
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,462	Re: Hard knocks 2015 texans Just not getting the O'Brien circle jerk, let's see what he does after a few years. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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