Redskins Moving up?

PSUSkinsFan21 · 04-21-2005, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

I'll be stunned if we trade the 25 and 9 for Edwards but the 25 and Gardner may not be enough to get that done. Maybe we work a three way deal to move up into the 15 range by trading Gardner and the 25 then trade the 9 and the 15ish for the 4 and a 2nd rounder? Does this sound plausible?

Ok, I've done some calculating. Doing the math, if we could move up to 15 by trading Gardner and 25 (which might be a stretch because it would normally take a late second rounder to move up that much), we could probably work a deal with the Bears for #4 and #7 in the second round (the points work out to be almost equal). Problem is, there is a very good chance Braylon doesn't make it past #3. It would be virtually impossible to get to #3 and still get a second rounder (especially since the Browns have the #2 pick in the second round). If he's still there at #4 though, I'll be on the edge of my seat.

FRPLG · 04-21-2005, 11:00 AM

I was so worried the site would be down and we would never be able to talk about this stuff before the draft. Thank god Matty was able to get this up and running.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-21-2005, 11:04 AM

Most def. I love that I actually have something to do at work now.

PSUskinsfan11 · 04-21-2005, 11:06 AM

I am not sold on trading up for Edwards. He is good but not special. I would be more satisfied if they said they were going after Williams. Honestly I still think we draft a CB at 9 (Rolle) or trade down to mid 1st and pick up another pick and draft a CB there (Rodgers) and take Heath Miller, Roddy White, Mark Clayton, or Matt Roth at 25.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-21-2005, 11:09 AM

There hasn't been a lot of hype around Miller these days. If he slips and we somehow acquire a 2nd round pick, it could be possibly to pick him up.

Daseal · 04-21-2005, 11:13 AM

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and he got a 14 on the wonderlic test (that's really bad for a QB).

Isn't that about the same that Marino/Montana got? Wonderlic test doesn't mean anything. They give it to these guys after a full day of workouts and most of them don't care about it that much. Last year there was a list of wonderlic tests and who scored what, Ill have to look for it when I get home from class! Basicly some of the best players scored low.

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I am not sold on trading up for Edwards. He is good but not special. I would be more satisfied if they said they were going after Williams.

AMEN.

As far as Rolle - I think he's gonna slip. He's way overrated. I'd take PacMan and Rogers before him. He has an ST attitude without the natural gifts! PacMan said he WANTED to be a Redskin. If we blow the 9th pick on a CB - it should be him!

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-21-2005, 11:26 AM

Yeah, I really want Pacman if no good WR is available.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-21-2005, 11:27 AM

I also like Merriman's attitude. I saw him on NFL Network and he looks like someone who would be a good team guy and he's such a BEAST.

PSUskinsfan11 · 04-21-2005, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

As far as Rolle - I think he's gonna slip. He's way overrated. I'd take PacMan and Rogers before him. He has an ST attitude without the natural gifts! PacMan said he WANTED to be a Redskin. If we blow the 9th pick on a CB - it should be him!

I don;t agree with Rolle being overrated. If anyone is overrated its PacMan. Pac Man is fast but he is not smart. Rolle doesn't make nearly the amount of mistakes PacMan does. Look at the competition faced by Rolle and Rodgers and compare it to what Pac Man was up against at UWV. Rolle and Rodgers clearly held up better against better passing teams and proved to be leaders for their team. Pac Man's team finished 7-4 against a weeker schedule and began the year as a preseason top 5 team.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-21-2005, 11:28 AM

I wouldn't want Rolle for the fact he's from the "U" alone. I don't want to have a Miami reunion every summer when they should be practicing with the team.

Redskins_P · 04-21-2005, 11:31 AM

Now that I think about it, I wouldn't be against drafting Miller now. But I doubt we will.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-21-2005, 11:32 AM

Yeah, if he's there at #25 or second round (if we get one).

Daseal · 04-21-2005, 11:33 AM

Well, Malcolm - eventually they'd just move the workouts to DC! Portis, Barrow, Taylor, Reed, Moss, Lewis, more? all play around here!

Rolle has an attitude problem. He thinks he a ST without the talent. Why do you say pacman is stupid? Basing it on a wonderlic tests? They're totally useless. Pacman is a faster more physical version of smoot. I do like Rodgers a lot, but Rolle is definitely the 3rd CB in my book.

Also, referring to Campbell, how is 8 losses in your entire college career mediocre?

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-21-2005, 11:36 AM

Hahaha... Yeah, I definitely agree on Rolle. I heard him talking about himself on NFL Network. He's ALREADY talking in 3rd person.

Redskins_P · 04-21-2005, 11:36 AM

Pac-Man is considered the best man to man cover corner. Rolle is better at zone coverage and zone blitzing.

04-21-2005, 11:00 AM	#17
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Redskins Moving up? I was so worried the site would be down and we would never be able to talk about this stuff before the draft. Thank god Matty was able to get this up and running.

04-21-2005, 11:04 AM	#18
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,254	Re: Redskins Moving up? Most def. I love that I actually have something to do at work now. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-21-2005, 11:06 AM	#19
PSUskinsfan11 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the port, PA Age: 40 Posts: 692	Re: Redskins Moving up? I am not sold on trading up for Edwards. He is good but not special. I would be more satisfied if they said they were going after Williams. Honestly I still think we draft a CB at 9 (Rolle) or trade down to mid 1st and pick up another pick and draft a CB there (Rodgers) and take Heath Miller, Roddy White, Mark Clayton, or Matt Roth at 25.

04-21-2005, 11:09 AM	#20
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,254	Re: Redskins Moving up? There hasn't been a lot of hype around Miller these days. If he slips and we somehow acquire a 2nd round pick, it could be possibly to pick him up. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-21-2005, 11:26 AM	#22
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,254	Re: Redskins Moving up? Yeah, I really want Pacman if no good WR is available. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-21-2005, 11:27 AM	#23
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,254	Re: Redskins Moving up? I also like Merriman's attitude. I saw him on NFL Network and he looks like someone who would be a good team guy and he's such a BEAST. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-21-2005, 11:28 AM	#25
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,254	Re: Redskins Moving up? I wouldn't want Rolle for the fact he's from the "U" alone. I don't want to have a Miami reunion every summer when they should be practicing with the team. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-21-2005, 11:31 AM	#26
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Redskins Moving up? Now that I think about it, I wouldn't be against drafting Miller now. But I doubt we will.

04-21-2005, 11:32 AM	#27
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,254	Re: Redskins Moving up? Yeah, if he's there at #25 or second round (if we get one). __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-21-2005, 11:33 AM	#28
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Redskins Moving up? Well, Malcolm - eventually they'd just move the workouts to DC! Portis, Barrow, Taylor, Reed, Moss, Lewis, more? all play around here! Rolle has an attitude problem. He thinks he a ST without the talent. Why do you say pacman is stupid? Basing it on a wonderlic tests? They're totally useless. Pacman is a faster more physical version of smoot. I do like Rodgers a lot, but Rolle is definitely the 3rd CB in my book. Also, referring to Campbell, how is 8 losses in your entire college career mediocre? __________________ Best. Player. Available.

04-21-2005, 11:36 AM	#29
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,254	Re: Redskins Moving up? Hahaha... Yeah, I definitely agree on Rolle. I heard him talking about himself on NFL Network. He's ALREADY talking in 3rd person. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-21-2005, 11:36 AM	#30
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Redskins Moving up? Pac-Man is considered the best man to man cover corner. Rolle is better at zone coverage and zone blitzing.

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