Lets talk football

CROOKEDSKINS · 03-05-2005, 01:21 PM

rember ap took less last year to stay with us.he could have
gone to the vikes for 3 years

offiss · 03-05-2005, 02:23 PM

I have no prob from either side Pierce gave us everything he had, plus this wasen't a greed move Pierce has played for basically minimum wage in the NFL for his entire carreer this is his first big pay day can't fault that, I also believe we will replace him without a major problem, now I have to start replying to my giant buddies who are all firing e-mail's at me, I have to let them know how much Pierce was a product of William's system and that they abundantly overpaid for him, and that his backup is better.

I go at it pretty good sometimes with my fellow skin's fan's, you have to see the firework's when I start in on the Giant fan's! Time to go and make someone's day!

:headbange

MTK · 03-05-2005, 02:36 PM

Pierce will remain a quality player in my opinion. He's smart and has a great work ethic, he'll be fine in NY.

mooby · 03-05-2005, 02:39 PM

well its official lavernues coles is now a new york jet. i hope santana moss goes to the pro bowl next year.

That Guy · 03-05-2005, 05:55 PM

gibbs basically said he didnt think it was fair to springs to offer smoot a better contract than the 10$ deal he got last year since smoot hasn't played as well (disregarding market forces almosts entirely) and that he thought they offered pierce enough so that he would stay as he had talked about in the papers but when pierce got a new agent in the middle of contract talks, that may have signalled the end... i'm sort of shoving words in his mouth from what was implied in the press conference, but it seems to make sense.

monk81 · 03-06-2005, 08:06 PM

At first I also was pissed at Pierce....until I read where both Pierce and the Redskins were BOTH coming from.........Well they couldn't work out a compromise deal........so we lost him. I'm more pissed at Coles because we took a huge cap hit because he decided not to repay his $5 bonus back ..................
GRRRRRRRRRR

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-06-2005, 08:26 PM

Oh well... I liked Coles but this whole situation left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm pumped about Moss and I think he will be a great addition.

Anyone think we MIGHT have some SPEED at the WR position?

Redskins8588 · 03-07-2005, 01:58 AM

I think that with Moss, we will still see those WR screens that we ran last year with Coles. But the difference is that with Moss they will work. I belive this because of Moss's punt returning ability. If you think about it the first 10 yards are the most important yards on a punt return. If you can get through the first wave of defenders in that 10 yards you pretty much only then have to out run the kicker and maybe a defender coming accross the field at an angle.

When we run the WR screens it is almost like a punt return, the QB tosses the ball to a WR who is pretty much all by himself until his blockers get set up. Then, that is where Moss punt return ability is second nature to him.

Where with Coles he wasnt use to those situations, he was more accustom to running deep routs where he could build up his speed to out run the defender. I guess what I am getting at is that Coles more fast than quick, and Moss is more quick than fast.

03-05-2005, 01:21 PM	#16
CROOKEDSKINS Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: KEY WEST FL Age: 52 Posts: 93	Re: Lets talk football rember ap took less last year to stay with us.he could have gone to the vikes for 3 years

03-05-2005, 02:23 PM	#17
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: Lets talk football I have no prob from either side Pierce gave us everything he had, plus this wasen't a greed move Pierce has played for basically minimum wage in the NFL for his entire carreer this is his first big pay day can't fault that, I also believe we will replace him without a major problem, now I have to start replying to my giant buddies who are all firing e-mail's at me, I have to let them know how much Pierce was a product of William's system and that they abundantly overpaid for him, and that his backup is better. I go at it pretty good sometimes with my fellow skin's fan's, you have to see the firework's when I start in on the Giant fan's! Time to go and make someone's day! :headbange

03-05-2005, 02:36 PM	#18
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Lets talk football Pierce will remain a quality player in my opinion. He's smart and has a great work ethic, he'll be fine in NY. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-05-2005, 02:39 PM	#19
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,446	Re: Lets talk football well its official lavernues coles is now a new york jet. i hope santana moss goes to the pro bowl next year. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

03-05-2005, 05:55 PM	#20
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Lets talk football gibbs basically said he didnt think it was fair to springs to offer smoot a better contract than the 10$ deal he got last year since smoot hasn't played as well (disregarding market forces almosts entirely) and that he thought they offered pierce enough so that he would stay as he had talked about in the papers but when pierce got a new agent in the middle of contract talks, that may have signalled the end... i'm sort of shoving words in his mouth from what was implied in the press conference, but it seems to make sense.

03-06-2005, 08:06 PM	#21
monk81 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: TEXAS Posts: 2,029	Re: Lets talk football At first I also was pissed at Pierce....until I read where both Pierce and the Redskins were BOTH coming from.........Well they couldn't work out a compromise deal........so we lost him. I'm more pissed at Coles because we took a huge cap hit because he decided not to repay his $5 bonus back .................. GRRRRRRRRRR __________________ "It's absolutely criminal, in my opinion, that Monk has yet to be enshrined (in the Pro-Football Hall of Fame)" Dan Arkush PFW

03-06-2005, 08:26 PM	#22
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Lets talk football Oh well... I liked Coles but this whole situation left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm pumped about Moss and I think he will be a great addition. Anyone think we MIGHT have some SPEED at the WR position? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-07-2005, 01:58 AM	#23
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	Re: Lets talk football I think that with Moss, we will still see those WR screens that we ran last year with Coles. But the difference is that with Moss they will work. I belive this because of Moss's punt returning ability. If you think about it the first 10 yards are the most important yards on a punt return. If you can get through the first wave of defenders in that 10 yards you pretty much only then have to out run the kicker and maybe a defender coming accross the field at an angle. When we run the WR screens it is almost like a punt return, the QB tosses the ball to a WR who is pretty much all by himself until his blockers get set up. Then, that is where Moss punt return ability is second nature to him. Where with Coles he wasnt use to those situations, he was more accustom to running deep routs where he could build up his speed to out run the defender. I guess what I am getting at is that Coles more fast than quick, and Moss is more quick than fast. __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

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