2005 NFL Hall of Fame Inductee's

Monk-Fan · 02-05-2005, 12:25 PM

Who the hell is Peter King think he is? He is quick to be critical of Monk but i bet he couldnt catch a pass over the middle or block a linebacker like Monk did when ever necessary. That kind of unselfish play helped his team win 3 Super Bowls, not to mention his mere locker room presents That FAT bastard King!!!!!!

wolfeskins · 02-05-2005, 12:37 PM

don't sweat it fellas , we all know that monk should be in the hall but the voting system is flawed. monk will be voted in one day.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-05-2005, 12:39 PM

He should just start up his own SKINS Hall of Fame. F those guys.

jhold4th · 02-05-2005, 12:42 PM

Dis respected again.

I blame Peter King, he's practically gone out to campaign against Monk

skinsguy · 02-05-2005, 01:58 PM

That is screwed up! How does Art Monk not make it into the Hall of Fame? I can see linemen getting snubbed just because they do the grunt work and QBs, WRs, and RBs get all the glory, but still Art Monk more than deserves to be induceted into the HOF!

It's amazing just how much the Redskins get disrespected!

skinsguy · 02-05-2005, 02:00 PM

I'll betcha a million bucks that if the Redskins were currently a winning team...consistantly making it into the playoffs or winning Super Bowls, we would probably see more former 'Skins making it to the Hall of Fame! So help me, if someone like Desmond Howard makes it to the Hall of Fame one day and Monk doesn't, I'm going to go postal! LOL

SmootSmack · 02-05-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

I'll betcha a million bucks that if the Redskins were currently a winning team...consistantly making it into the playoffs or winning Super Bowls, we would probably see more former 'Skins making it to the Hall of Fame! So help me, if someone like Desmond Howard makes it to the Hall of Fame one day and Monk doesn't, I'm going to go postal! LOL

Thing is they were constantly making the playoffs and winning Super Bowls when Monk was playing so why isn't he getting more recognition? I just don't get it.

PSUskinsfan11 · 02-05-2005, 02:23 PM

It is bullshit art didn't get in but does anyonw know where Derrick Thomas ended up? I am pretty pissed off no defensive players got in !!!!

BrudLee · 02-05-2005, 02:44 PM

Since Monk didn't get in (which doesn't surprise me - he deserves it, but that's clearly not a guarantee), I'm glad the class was as small as it was. Only two modern players, and both were first ballot guys.

Actually, the biggest surprise was Young. I don't doubt he belongs in the Hall, but he had a pretty short career as a starter. Though his success can't be denied, it isn't like he carried his team for the duration of his career - they were the 49ers, for God's sake. He took over a perennial Super Bowl contender, and they remained a perennial Super Bowl contender. To me a first ballot guy retires with records (like Marino, or... Art Monk) or has a long career of sustained success. Young started for, what, seven years for San Fran? His USFL starts and Tampa Bay were never Canton numbers, so basically his Hall legacy is seven years starting for the Niners. To be frank, when I saw Young made the cut, the first thing I thought was George Young - and I was pretty pleased.

Gmanc711 · 02-05-2005, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUskinsfan11

It is bullshit art didn't get in but does anyonw know where Derrick Thomas ended up? I am pretty pissed off no defensive players got in !!!!

DT got cut the same round that Monk did, he was in the top 10 but not the top 6. 7,8,9,10 were Monk, Grimm, DT and Carson I belive (not in that order).

skinsguy · 02-05-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

Thing is they were constantly making the playoffs and winning Super Bowls when Monk was playing so why isn't he getting more recognition? I just don't get it.

I dont' know, but it just seems to me that anytime there is press around our team, it is always something that is negative. Especially when it comes from ESPN....

skin4Life28 · 02-05-2005, 03:20 PM

I don't know about negativety from ESPN. All I heard today from Trey Wingo, Merill Hoge, Sean Salisbury and others on how Monk should be in. Of course theres going to be negativety on this franchise the way it is going.

sportscurmudgeon · 02-05-2005, 03:48 PM

I know everyone here is angry about Monk getting snubbed again but the REAL reason he is getting snubbed is not Peter King or writers from Dallas or aliens from the Planet Zeembo. The real culprit here is - hold your breath - Art Monk.

The fact it that writers/broadcasters/journalists are the ones who decide who goes into the HoF in all the major sports. If you don't like that, go to your bank account and start up your own HoF. When you do that, you can establish whatever you'd like as the process for inducting people. You could do it all yourself if you want and you could banish all Cowboys' players just because it's your HoF. You can do whatever you want if you are the one paying the bills. But that's not the way Canton works. Deal with it!

Art Monk was not "helpful" or "accomodating" to the press folks for most if not all of his career. He wasn't mean or disrepectful, but he wasn't helpful either. And so, he did not endear himself to the people who now hold the keys to the HoF and he is paying a price for that. He knew they held the keys; he behaved the way he wanted to behave. Now what has kicked in is one of the unspoken rules of the real world:

Adults make choices and choices have consequences.

Monk will eventually get in. It would help if he did a little apologizing and a little "glad handing" on his own behalf - which is not his style at all but which would go a looong way. Once again,. he can choose to do this or not. And that choice will have consequences either positive or negative.

BTW, if Monk writes a letter like Harry Carson did, he won't get in until he's dead.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-05-2005, 03:55 PM

The way I feel too is that I'm sure Redskins fans aren't the only ones who have favorite players who get snubbed. The good thing is, as much as we'd like to have Monk in the Hall of Fame, Redskins and non-Redskins fans will always know how great he was. THAT type of legacy is something that will live on in memory even if it is not enshrined in Canton.

Gmanc711 · 02-05-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Art Monk was not "helpful" or "accomodating" to the press folks for most if not all of his career. He wasn't mean or disrepectful, but he wasn't helpful either. And so, he did not endear himself to the people who now hold the keys to the HoF and he is paying a price for that. He knew they held the keys; he behaved the way he wanted to behave. Now what has kicked in is one of the unspoken rules of the real world

First of all, I completley agree with your statement. However, it just proves a sense of biasness, I think. Just because he declined an interview or whatever, it should keep him out of the hall. I mean Barry Sanders didnt really do interview's, and he got in right away (I understand Sanders was better than Monk). They say that they take all the off the feild stuff out of the equation and they dont.

02-05-2005, 12:39 PM	#18
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,254	He should just start up his own SKINS Hall of Fame. F those guys. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-05-2005, 01:58 PM	#20
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	That is screwed up! How does Art Monk not make it into the Hall of Fame? I can see linemen getting snubbed just because they do the grunt work and QBs, WRs, and RBs get all the glory, but still Art Monk more than deserves to be induceted into the HOF! It's amazing just how much the Redskins get disrespected! __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

02-05-2005, 02:00 PM	#21
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	I'll betcha a million bucks that if the Redskins were currently a winning team...consistantly making it into the playoffs or winning Super Bowls, we would probably see more former 'Skins making it to the Hall of Fame! So help me, if someone like Desmond Howard makes it to the Hall of Fame one day and Monk doesn't, I'm going to go postal! LOL __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

02-05-2005, 02:44 PM	#24
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Since Monk didn't get in (which doesn't surprise me - he deserves it, but that's clearly not a guarantee), I'm glad the class was as small as it was. Only two modern players, and both were first ballot guys. Actually, the biggest surprise was Young. I don't doubt he belongs in the Hall, but he had a pretty short career as a starter. Though his success can't be denied, it isn't like he carried his team for the duration of his career - they were the 49ers, for God's sake. He took over a perennial Super Bowl contender, and they remained a perennial Super Bowl contender. To me a first ballot guy retires with records (like Marino, or... Art Monk) or has a long career of sustained success. Young started for, what, seven years for San Fran? His USFL starts and Tampa Bay were never Canton numbers, so basically his Hall legacy is seven years starting for the Niners. To be frank, when I saw Young made the cut, the first thing I thought was George Young - and I was pretty pleased. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

02-05-2005, 03:48 PM	#28
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	I know everyone here is angry about Monk getting snubbed again but the REAL reason he is getting snubbed is not Peter King or writers from Dallas or aliens from the Planet Zeembo. The real culprit here is - hold your breath - Art Monk. The fact it that writers/broadcasters/journalists are the ones who decide who goes into the HoF in all the major sports. If you don't like that, go to your bank account and start up your own HoF. When you do that, you can establish whatever you'd like as the process for inducting people. You could do it all yourself if you want and you could banish all Cowboys' players just because it's your HoF. You can do whatever you want if you are the one paying the bills. But that's not the way Canton works. Deal with it! Art Monk was not "helpful" or "accomodating" to the press folks for most if not all of his career. He wasn't mean or disrepectful, but he wasn't helpful either. And so, he did not endear himself to the people who now hold the keys to the HoF and he is paying a price for that. He knew they held the keys; he behaved the way he wanted to behave. Now what has kicked in is one of the unspoken rules of the real world: Adults make choices and choices have consequences. Monk will eventually get in. It would help if he did a little apologizing and a little "glad handing" on his own behalf - which is not his style at all but which would go a looong way. Once again,. he can choose to do this or not. And that choice will have consequences either positive or negative. BTW, if Monk writes a letter like Harry Carson did, he won't get in until he's dead. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

02-05-2005, 12:25 PM	#16
Monk-Fan Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Abilene, Texas Posts: 151	Who the hell is Peter King think he is? He is quick to be critical of Monk but i bet he couldnt catch a pass over the middle or block a linebacker like Monk did when ever necessary. That kind of unselfish play helped his team win 3 Super Bowls, not to mention his mere locker room presents That FAT bastard King!!!!!!

02-05-2005, 12:37 PM	#17
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	don't sweat it fellas , we all know that monk should be in the hall but the voting system is flawed. monk will be voted in one day.

02-05-2005, 12:42 PM	#19
jhold4th Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Omaha Age: 61 Posts: 57	Dis respected again. I blame Peter King, he's practically gone out to campaign against Monk

02-05-2005, 02:23 PM	#23
PSUskinsfan11 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the port, PA Age: 40 Posts: 692	It is bullshit art didn't get in but does anyonw know where Derrick Thomas ended up? I am pretty pissed off no defensive players got in !!!!

02-05-2005, 03:20 PM	#27
skin4Life28 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 38 Posts: 447	I don't know about negativety from ESPN. All I heard today from Trey Wingo, Merill Hoge, Sean Salisbury and others on how Monk should be in. Of course theres going to be negativety on this franchise the way it is going.

02-05-2005, 03:55 PM	#29
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,254	The way I feel too is that I'm sure Redskins fans aren't the only ones who have favorite players who get snubbed. The good thing is, as much as we'd like to have Monk in the Hall of Fame, Redskins and non-Redskins fans will always know how great he was. THAT type of legacy is something that will live on in memory even if it is not enshrined in Canton. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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