Arrington on the way out?

[BossHog]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I am growing extremely tired of this crap...
In an effort to not be a jerk about this I will not use names but it is seriously time for some people around here to face the fact that they know nothing about football. Or at least don't have a firm grasp of the way the NFL works. On top of the fact that you don't trade an all pro line backer for apparently no good reason you also don't trade an all pro linebacker when it would KILL YOUR FREAKING CAP!!!. It would not save us any money at all next year. Listen up people...this team is built for next year. Next year is it. Talent wise next year will be our best year we've had in awhile and may be short lived since 2006 may require some serious rework for cap reasons. We are not trading Portis or Lavar or anybody outside of the obvious candidates...plain and simple it is not going to happen. ANd any 'journalist' who suggests otherwise clearly is making things up just for the heck of it...those tards over at Comcats must not understand the NFL as much as they would have you believe.

You're barking up the right tree Mr. Cap Expert. So you're saying Lavar Arrington will be a Redskin for the duration of his 8 year extension? Just as Stephen Davis played out his 10 year 100 million dollar contract(How much we 'Skins fans loved Stephen Davis)? Maybe that's the problem with our front office. We bite off other teams' trade bait and lose valuable trade picks and never come up with our own. And lose stars like Smoot and Davis to free agency.

[BossHog]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

So you would rather have Feeley & Detmer over McNabb?

Hold this sign for me...

You're comparing apples to oranges.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by BossHog

Hold this sign for me...

You're comparing apples to oranges.

Originally Posted by BossHog

That's my point as well. Who would rather have? A high-priced, brand-name guy who plays well or a budget-priced, no-name guy who plays just as well? Let's not kid ourselves. Yes, Arrington wrecks havoc. He has also blown more assignments than M street hooker.

My God, man, do you not understand what you wrote?!

Or are you trying write such conflicting posts just to get us to pull our hair out?

[BossHog]

I'm not at all interested or concered about what PHI does! Who would you rather have Brunell or Ramsey and Hasselbeck?

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by BossHog

You can't compare Detmer and Feeley money to Arrington money. You want to use PHI as an example? Look what happened to Trotter before we signed him. It happens to the 'best' of them.

Look it all stems from that comment.

It seemed as though you didn't understand Gman's post. I tried to clear it up for you. How we got here, I do not know. You tell me.

[MTK]

I really think people play too much Madden and think that's the way the NFL works.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I am growing extremely tired of this crap...
In an effort to not be a jerk about this I will not use names but it is seriously time for some people around here to face the fact that they know nothing about football. Or at least don't have a firm grasp of the way the NFL works. On top of the fact that you don't trade an all pro line backer for apparently no good reason you also don't trade an all pro linebacker when it would KILL YOUR FREAKING CAP!!!. It would not save us any money at all next year. Listen up people...this team is built for next year. Next year is it. Talent wise next year will be our best year we've had in awhile and may be short lived since 2006 may require some serious rework for cap reasons. We are not trading Portis or Lavar or anybody outside of the obvious candidates...plain and simple it is not going to happen. ANd any 'journalist' who suggests otherwise clearly is making things up just for the heck of it...those tards over at Comcats must not understand the NFL as much as they would have you believe.

I have a very little knowledge about the salary cap. Could you read my rply which is #8 and give me any insight you may have. Thanks

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

In one of gibbs last press confrence he was talking about a three year window in the cap space. This is a moving three year window. He said the team was fine as with the cap perspective over the next three years. Maybe danny boy has a syatem that we are overlooking with the cap room. Has he structured contracts for this? Is this a plan to keep renegotiating contracts to give us room? We allways are hearing about our cap problems but it seems every year we find the room to sign new players. Does anyone have any insight on this or have heard gibbs speak of this?

I remember back when we went our our big restricted free agent blitz when we got Coles, Hall, Thomas, etc., the WP had a very detailed article about the Redskins plan of attack, and I do remember them mentioning that Snyder had extensive cap spreadsheets of 3-year projections and he worked closely with those projections when he structured the contracts to ensure they were staying under the cap.

[BossHog]

OK. As I said before, Marshall and Clemons filled in admirably in Arrington's absense. As did Feeley and Detmer did for PHI when McNabb was hurt. Just as Marshall, Clemons, Detmer, and Feeley all benefited from being in a system that plays to thier own strengths, realisticly, none of these guys aren't near franchise caliber personnel. We finally have a coach (Williams) and a system with core guys that need not an all-world, top-of-league-contract LB. Follow me?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I know we all love to speculate in the off-season, but I'm taking the stance that we are seriously stacked on the team for the next few years. Yes, a few free agent acquistions/draft picks to upgrade, NOT replace. I heard somewhere that if the Redskins were to have scored 23 more points this year, that their record would have been 10+ wins. I don't think that turning over the roster AGAIN is going to add those 23 points.

This is where I feel that an added WR/OL/DE is going to make a world of difference, not trading our best linebacker.

[MTK]

Bottom line:

Arrington isn't going anywhere, neither is Portis or Coles.

#1, Unless you're cleaning house due to cap reasons why would you trade your stars?

#2, with their contracts they are virtually untradeable, unless you want to bury the team with massive cap hits.

End of story.

[BossHog]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really think people play too much Madden and think that's the way the NFL works.

True Maden Baller here. Yes, I play lots of Madden. But unlike most, I hate 'franchise' mode.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I know we all love to speculate in the off-season, but I'm taking the stance that we are seriously stacked on the team for the next few years. Yes, a few free agent acquistions/draft picks to upgrade, NOT replace. I heard somewhere that if the Redskins were to have scored 23 more points this year, that their record would have been 10+ wins. I don't think that turning over the roster AGAIN is going to add those 23 points.

This is where I feel that an added WR/OL/DE is going to make a world of difference, not trading our best linebacker.

We would have been 14 and 2

[irish]

Any way we could find to trade LA for a ton of draft picks would, IMO, be a great move. Just like the cowboys did with Herschel Walker to get the picks that essentially built their championship team.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by irish

Any way we could find to trade LA for a ton of draft picks would, IMO, be a great move. Just like the cowboys did with Herschel Walker to get the picks that essentially built their championship team.

HOW WOULD WE PAY ALL OF THESE DRAFT PICKS.