Vick is a crybaby

[tdSKINS1]

Why is this a thread? If you watched Vick at VT and saw how he sacrificed his body for his team every week you wouldn't call him a cry baby. Any one of us would be cry babies if we played in the NFL and got 300 pound lineman hitting us every week.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by tdSKINS1

Why is this a thread? If you watched Vick at VT and saw how he sacrificed his body for his team every week you wouldn't call him a cry baby. Any one of us would be cry babies if we played in the NFL and got 300 pound lineman hitting us every week.

it's his choice to be that type of player, even if it is the best choice

[rbanerjee23]

I'm no Vick fan but if Canty makes that hit on Brees or Brady then it's a flag at the very least

[tc2deuce]

Vick is right on this one and we all know if it was number 12 it would be a flag

[BigSKINBauer]

Vick honestly does get hit a lot more, after the ball is thrown, than other QBs in the league. Yes, its his his o-line's fault but Vick never gets the flag. The defense and refs treat him like he is a RB. Eagle fans complain about this all the time, not just this game. While watching the game i was thinking that another QB would get some ref-assistance on a lot of those plays.

That being said, i'm happy that Vick doesn't get these calls. Maybe his whining(and injury) will lead to the refs being more favorable to him in the future, which is upsetting. With this added publicity, some people will be calling out racism which will also lead to the refs being more favorable to Vick.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by tdSKINS1

Why is this a thread? If you watched Vick at VT and saw how he sacrificed his body for his team every week you wouldn't call him a cry baby. Any one of us would be cry babies if we played in the NFL and got 300 pound lineman hitting us every week.

This.

And I'll add my own . I think the refs and even the league are treading on the fine line of discrimination/racism wrt Vick. He's listed as a quarterback period end of sentence and when he's behind the LOS extending a play w/ his feet there's no legitimate excuse for the helmet to helmet and/or late hits he takes. In short, every other marquee (err white) QB in the league gets the benefit of the doubt everytime in those instances. F*ck you barely lay a finger on Tom B's pretty head or dare to tap him after a play and there's a shower of yellow flags coming in for minutes. Same goes for several others.

I understand there's room for debate about what type of guy Vick is i.e. character issues but it's really, really disingenuous to pretend it's ok the guy is treated differently as a player.

Off soap-box...and ps I'm white.

[diehard]

Originally Posted by The Goat

This.

And I'll add my own . I think the refs and even the league are treading on the fine line of discrimination/racism wrt Vick. He's listed as a quarterback period end of sentence and when he's behind the LOS extending a play w/ his feet there's no legitimate excuse for the helmet to helmet and/or late hits he takes. In short, every other marquee (err white) QB in the league gets the benefit of the doubt everytime in those instances. F*ck you barely lay a finger on Tom B's pretty head or dare to tap him after a play and there's a shower of yellow flags coming in for minutes. Same goes for several others.

I understand there's room for debate about what type of guy Vick is i.e. character issues but it's really, really disingenuous to pretend it's ok the guy is treated differently as a player.

Off soap-box...and ps I'm white.

Is this you Todd?

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by The Goat

This.

And I'll add my own . I think the refs and even the league are treading on the fine line of discrimination/racism wrt Vick. He's listed as a quarterback period end of sentence and when he's behind the LOS extending a play w/ his feet there's no legitimate excuse for the helmet to helmet and/or late hits he takes. In short, every other marquee (err white) QB in the league gets the benefit of the doubt everytime in those instances. F*ck you barely lay a finger on Tom B's pretty head or dare to tap him after a play and there's a shower of yellow flags coming in for minutes. Same goes for several others.

I understand there's room for debate about what type of guy Vick is i.e. character issues but it's really, really disingenuous to pretend it's ok the guy is treated differently as a player.

Off soap-box...and ps I'm white.

I would say Matt Ryan is pretty white and as far as I remember he was the one that wasn't getting the roughing the passer calls when his Falcons squared off with the Eagles last week. Josh Freeman, Campbell, McNabb all get their fair share of roughing calls so I don't think your theory holds any water.

[mooby]

Anybody see the play today where Muhammad Wilkerson of the jets barely bumped Jason Campbell and got roughing the passer called on him? Now that call was some bs, and the only reason I'm bringing it up is to point out how pretentious the racism angle is. Vick doesn't get the calls because he's a dual threat qb, not because he's black. If anything the call should've been helmet to helmet and not roughing the passer.

[mooby]

Honestly I haven't seen as many borderline roughing the passer penalties as I did last year and I think the refs might've been instructed to lay off a little bit if it didn't appear intentional.

But the big problem with the refs across the league is inconsistency. They are just not consistent when it comes to appropriately measuring out punishment for intentional acts.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by mooby

Anybody see the play today where Muhammad Wilkerson of the jets barely bumped Jason Campbell and got roughing the passer called on him? Now that call was some bs, and the only reason I'm bringing it up is to point out how pretentious the racism angle is. Vick doesn't get the calls because he's a dual threat qb, not because he's black. If anything the call should've been helmet to helmet and not roughing the passer.

did u also see the bogus intentional grounding call on the same play ? one.bad call to offset another, least they got that right .... Matt Ryan was hut helmet to.helmet worse than that BY THE EAGLES.. didn't get a flag or cry. .. **** racism... he doesn't get hit un fairly or borderline any effing more than alot of other passers in the league... he's a whiny brat with a false sense of entitlement just like the team, city and fans gettin plays for.

Trent dilfer ripped him on sports center with valid points and rightfully so...

[Giantone]

Here is an idea....have the Offensive line block!!!
Last year when the Skins Mcnabb was getting hit was it racism???
Vick brings this on himself by extending the play and holding the ball longer then other QB's....and once he runs(outside the pocket) he is not a QB but a running back and all QB protection rules are off.
Serously look at the Canty play again....he is not hit in the head put the chest and shoulder as was explained on Mike and Mike this morning,the other big hit he took was on his INT when he tried to make a tackle and was nailed.....again he is a normal player and can be ....and should be hit on plays such as these.Cutler in Chicargo has ben hit more this year then Vick....racism my ass he's a cry baby and needs to STFU!!!

P.S>

...watch a boatload of Football yesterday and not in any game but the Giant game did this happen .The refs helped Vick off the ground 3 times...never helped Eli or any other QB from what I saw....must be racism.

[Alvin Walton]

Wow, the refs are in Mike V's doghouse, sucks to be them.

[Daseal]

Yeah. The racism comment is bullshit. I'm guessing a racist wouldn't try for a job in a league that is primarily black. Wasn't Mike Carey the ref of this game as well? I could have that confused, but I thought he was.

Vick doesn't get the calls because he constantly extends the plays. Most QBs can't escape the way Vick can. If you don't finish the play with Vick, there's a good chance it's going for 7 afterwords. He also holds on to the ball until the last second and constantly extends the play. Nothing wrong with that, but there are consequences for that type of action.

Vick gives up his body, but he's also pretty fragile. I know if I were a coach, I'd be preaching to get hits in on Vick. Put him on the ground. Nothing dirty, but finish the plays. Because if Kafka comes in, we win!

[mlmdub130]

i didn't see any of the game i was driving all day yesterday, but after watching the "highlights" of vicks game from the original post, that was just a bad game by the eagles and vick. and the canty hit did not look like helemt to helmet, he hit vicks shoulder with his helmet, which the ref is clearly motioning to the eagles sideline after the play.

and as far as the race thing goes, thats way of base imo. the only qb's who get the roughing the passer calls are manning and brady and mostly just brady. and they are the poster boys for the nfl so yeah a few more call are going to go their way.

vick is just a punk, always has been always will be, the guy just can't take adversity for shit. the second it starts getting rough he loses his cool and can't stay focused on the game. just look at last week when he scoreboarded the falcons fans as he was walking off. not that is't a huge issue, but it just shows you his lack of focus. bet a reid would love to see kolb walkin thru tunnel right about now