Chris Cooley/Fred Davis

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't really see CC having a ton of trade value, even if healthy. Maybe a late round pick at best. I'd rather just keep him til his contract runs out.

Agree. And with Cooley's lingering knee, there won't be a "secret" about Davis' skill level when he hits free agency after this year. He's going to be properly valued by (a weak) market, which means that if we don't pay him like a starter, the New York Giants probably will.

Which, if we decide he has too many holes in his game to be elite, might not be such a horrible thing.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't really see CC having a ton of trade value, even if healthy. Maybe a late round pick at best. I'd rather just keep him til his contract runs out.

I don't know. BA is a wizard when it comes to trades. I'm sure if he wanted to trade Cooley he could at least get a third.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I don't know. BA is a wizard when it comes to trades. I'm sure if he wanted to trade Cooley he could at least get a third.

Part of Bruce Allen's wizardry, okay, all of it, involves not setting unrealistic expectations for a return in the trade. Getting two 6ths for McNabb's contract was wizardry. But the real magic was getting McNabb to sign the contract in the first place. Fletcher Smith had to be duped into thinking McNabb had a future here.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I don't know. BA is a wizard when it comes to trades. I'm sure if he wanted to trade Cooley he could at least get a third.

a 3rd?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

a 3rd?

I like the line at the bottom, "with friends like these, who needs needs rehab"

i dont know who gonna give a 3rd round for a TE who is currently getting his knee drained.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

a 3rd?

Bro, it worked for me. Even got another player in return.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

a 3rd?

I've seen that movie, it's actually decent. Of course it's not hard to play a stoner though.

As for Cooley and Davis, it makes sense to trade Cooley. We have a surplus, this team isn't exactly stocked at every other position on the roster, and we don't even use both of them. Cooley is getting up there in years and as has been mentioned good teams find good guys like Cooley and flip them for picks while they can still get great value for them. I think if we waited until some team had a tight end that went down in the season and was willing to pay a good price for one, we could easily get a good deal for Cooley. He does need to get healthy first though.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by mooby

I've seen that movie, it's actually decent. Of course it's not hard to play a stoner though.

As for Cooley and Davis, it makes sense to trade Cooley. We have a surplus, this team isn't exactly stocked at every other position on the roster, and we don't even use both of them. Cooley is getting up there in years and as has been mentioned good teams find good guys like Cooley and flip them for picks while they can still get great value for them. I think if we waited until some team had a tight end that went down in the season and was willing to pay a good price for one, we could easily get a good deal for Cooley. He does need to get healthy first though.

^this makes sense and is what i'm talking about. once a actual situation like this arises then yes the trade talks for cooley should and will start up again, not after he misses his first preseason game.

[NLC1054]

That's the thing guys; there's no market for tight ends right now. Everyone who needed one has one, and no one's going to trade much for him. Trading him for a 4th or 5th round pick is silly. His value, at least in theory, is higher than that, and you don't trade a productive player like Cooley (and he is productive) for less than market value just because.

You trade him while he's hot. He's not hot right now.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

cooley's a fan favorite, but i'd be very happy trading him for a late round pick. i certainly think we need to get rid of him, one way or another, before next season. Fred Davis is younger, more explosive, and more durable. He's the future at the position and we need to lock him up.

[NLC1054]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

cooley's a fan favorite, but i'd be very happy trading him for a late round pick. i certainly think we need to get rid of him, one way or another, before next season. Fred Davis is younger, more explosive, and more durable. He's the future at the position and we need to lock him up.

Fred also has trouble blocking on a consistent basis, and you don't jettison productive players for late round compensation unless you're absolutely sure they can no longer contribute in a meaningful manner.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

Fred also has trouble blocking on a consistent basis, and you don't jettison productive players for late round compensation unless you're absolutely sure they can no longer contribute in a meaningful manner.

He sealed the end several times Friday night blocking. I was like who is that WR playing up on the line...? Fred Davis wow, guy is skinny.

I agree with not getting rid of Cooley BUT I fully support, in a rebuilding effort, to give FD much more reps with the starters and more playing time.

I think Davis is ready to be a full time starter and can contribute now in this offense. I woulda like to have seen him get get underneath throw from Rex when he instead went to incomplete to Stallworth. He woulda gotten inside the 10 yard line, he had alot of space.

[MTK]

I think it's time to put the alarm clock issue to bed. He hasn't had any additional incidents since his rookie year has he?

[wilsowilso]

For the last time. We are not trading Cooley.

That's my only gameday jersey.

Therefore Cooley is untouchable.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

For the last time. We are not trading Cooley.

That's my only gameday jersey.

Therefore Cooley is untouchable.

finally! a solid arguement.