Spurrier Absolved?

sportscurmudgeon · 11-05-2004, 03:58 PM

I agree that Spurrier shortchanged the Skins in the number of hours he put into the job. However, long hours in the office by the coaching staff cannot be the answer to a losing team's problems. ARe you telling me that the coaching staffs for SF (1-6), Miami (1-7) and Oakland (2-6) are all "hitting the greens at 4PM. Not so!

The Skins are coached much better this year than last. They do not beat themselves with stupid penalties and off-the-wall trick plays. The Skins are losing because of the guys wearing numbers on their fronts and backs who are on the field on Sundays. They are simply not good enough to be a 5-2 team; that's why they are 2-5.

MTK · 11-05-2004, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

I agree that Spurrier shortchanged the Skins in the number of hours he put into the job. However, long hours in the office by the coaching staff cannot be the answer to a losing team's problems. ARe you telling me that the coaching staffs for SF (1-6), Miami (1-7) and Oakland (2-6) are all "hitting the greens at 4PM. Not so!

I understand putting in long hours doesn't directly equate to success, but leaving at 4pm can't help. When 31 other coaches are burning the midnight oil and Spurrier is sitting at home watching Leno, it kinda makes you wonder what's wrong with this picture, don't you think?

ZackMills · 11-05-2004, 04:31 PM

Spurrier is a good man and a good coach that deserves respect. :cool-smil

Redskins_P · 11-05-2004, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ZackMills

Spurrier is a good man and a good coach that deserves respect. :cool-smil

Who's disrespecting him?

So Spurrier deserves respect? For what? You make no sense little Zachary.

You say Spurrier deserves respect, and then you sit here disrespect one the greatest coaches in NFL history.

MTK · 11-05-2004, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

You say Spurrier deserves respect, and then you sit here disrespect one the greatest coaches in NFL history.

He's got you there zach

TD Redskins_P

Daseal · 11-05-2004, 04:57 PM

Spurrier has been nothing but a classy guy while fans run all over him up and down constantly. He hasn't said anything negative about the players or organization, he's been in the area but tried to keep a low key. Spurrier was a modest man who took the blame on himself first. I love when he did it he was seen as some sort of fool and that all the problems stemmed from him. Now Gibbs is some sort of moral icon for doing it and none of the problems stem from him.

MTK · 11-05-2004, 05:06 PM

The fans have a problem with Spurrier because of his 12-20 record, not because anybody thought he lacked class. I wish him the best wherever he goes.

And again, 3 Super Bowl wins and your bust in Canton is going to buy you patience and respect from the fans. Fair or not, Gibbs is going to get the benefit of the doubt because he's already proven himself in this league.

There's really no comparing the two. They're both cut from different molds and Spurrier hasn't done jack in the NFL to deserve any respect from the fans.

Redskins_P · 11-05-2004, 05:07 PM

I have nothing against Spurrier at all. I wish him nothing but the best. I also wish he would've succeeded here, but unfortunately he didn't. I admit, I was so excited when I found out he was coming to coach here and if he had still had Marvin Lewis, I think he would've stuck around. Unfortunately, that never happened and he walked away......

All Spurrier needed was some assistants with NFL experience, a good RB (imagine if he would've had Portis) and maybe a GM. If he ever comes back to the NFL, I believe he can succeed but he's gotta surround himself with some proven NFL assistants.

Daseal · 11-05-2004, 05:21 PM

I dont know about a GM. He wanted Hall, Morton, Coles, Ramsey, etc. Got em' all!

NY_Skinsfan · 11-05-2004, 05:36 PM

I have to admit Spurrier did pick up some great players, especially Coles and Ramsey. Does Coles ever give interviews after a game? I am curious to hear what he says about the poor passing and just plain poor offense in general. His numbers aren't even half of what they were last year and I know that has somewhat to do with his toe injury but when we watches the balls sail over his head and behind him he's got to be thinking, "Come on!"

skinsguy · 11-05-2004, 06:37 PM

Spurrier MAY have figured out the NFL if he had stayed a bit longer. I think he was starting to realize that it was going to take more time and effort than what he thought at first. However, to say that he's been vendicated by our 2 -5 start with Gibbs is rather silly. Heck, we might win the rest of our games but even if we don't, Gibbs knows what he's doing and the game hasn't passed him by. To establish something solid and something that will be a true contender, it takes time. Sure we could probably easily have a winning record and could possibly even make the playoffs this year, but still this year is about finding out who is going to be true Redskins and who is in it for the long haul. I can't stress enough how people need to be paitent because Gibbs does know what he's doing and the time, effort, and the great coaching staff that has surround him...it's almost impossible to think he'll fail.

djnemo65 · 11-05-2004, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Spurrier has been nothing but a classy guy while fans run all over him up and down constantly. He hasn't said anything negative about the players or organization, he's been in the area but tried to keep a low key. Spurrier was a modest man who took the blame on himself first. I love when he did it he was seen as some sort of fool and that all the problems stemmed from him. Now Gibbs is some sort of moral icon for doing it and none of the problems stem from him.

I completely agree with you Daseal, and one thing I've never understood is the ferocity with which the media attacked him. He is a great coach who wound up in the perfectly wrong situation IMO. Or you may think he is a bad coach who lucked his way into that national championship. But the point is, he is a class act who doesn't deserve to be villified the way he is.

ZackMills · 11-05-2004, 07:35 PM

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Spurrier has been nothing but a classy guy while fans run all over him up and down constantly. He hasn't said anything negative about the players or organization, he's been in the area but tried to keep a low key. Spurrier was a modest man who took the blame on himself first. I love when he did it he was seen as some sort of fool and that all the problems stemmed from him. Now Gibbs is some sort of moral icon for doing it and none of the problems stem from him.

Great post

MTK · 11-05-2004, 09:40 PM

You won't find a classier guy than Gibbs

Daseal · 11-05-2004, 10:51 PM

Matty, that's true. I'm curious to see how Gibbs would react to half of the negative press Spurrier had though.

11-05-2004, 03:58 PM	#16
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	I agree that Spurrier shortchanged the Skins in the number of hours he put into the job. However, long hours in the office by the coaching staff cannot be the answer to a losing team's problems. ARe you telling me that the coaching staffs for SF (1-6), Miami (1-7) and Oakland (2-6) are all "hitting the greens at 4PM. Not so! The Skins are coached much better this year than last. They do not beat themselves with stupid penalties and off-the-wall trick plays. The Skins are losing because of the guys wearing numbers on their fronts and backs who are on the field on Sundays. They are simply not good enough to be a 5-2 team; that's why they are 2-5. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

11-05-2004, 04:31 PM	#18
ZackMills Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 176	Spurrier is a good man and a good coach that deserves respect. :cool-smil

11-05-2004, 04:57 PM	#21
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Spurrier has been nothing but a classy guy while fans run all over him up and down constantly. He hasn't said anything negative about the players or organization, he's been in the area but tried to keep a low key. Spurrier was a modest man who took the blame on himself first. I love when he did it he was seen as some sort of fool and that all the problems stemmed from him. Now Gibbs is some sort of moral icon for doing it and none of the problems stem from him.

11-05-2004, 05:06 PM	#22
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,511	The fans have a problem with Spurrier because of his 12-20 record, not because anybody thought he lacked class. I wish him the best wherever he goes. And again, 3 Super Bowl wins and your bust in Canton is going to buy you patience and respect from the fans. Fair or not, Gibbs is going to get the benefit of the doubt because he's already proven himself in this league. There's really no comparing the two. They're both cut from different molds and Spurrier hasn't done jack in the NFL to deserve any respect from the fans.

11-05-2004, 05:07 PM	#23
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	I have nothing against Spurrier at all. I wish him nothing but the best. I also wish he would've succeeded here, but unfortunately he didn't. I admit, I was so excited when I found out he was coming to coach here and if he had still had Marvin Lewis, I think he would've stuck around. Unfortunately, that never happened and he walked away...... All Spurrier needed was some assistants with NFL experience, a good RB (imagine if he would've had Portis) and maybe a GM. If he ever comes back to the NFL, I believe he can succeed but he's gotta surround himself with some proven NFL assistants.

11-05-2004, 05:21 PM	#24
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	I dont know about a GM. He wanted Hall, Morton, Coles, Ramsey, etc. Got em' all!

11-05-2004, 05:36 PM	#25
NY_Skinsfan Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albany, NY Age: 51 Posts: 838	I have to admit Spurrier did pick up some great players, especially Coles and Ramsey. Does Coles ever give interviews after a game? I am curious to hear what he says about the poor passing and just plain poor offense in general. His numbers aren't even half of what they were last year and I know that has somewhat to do with his toe injury but when we watches the balls sail over his head and behind him he's got to be thinking, "Come on!"

11-05-2004, 06:37 PM	#26
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Spurrier MAY have figured out the NFL if he had stayed a bit longer. I think he was starting to realize that it was going to take more time and effort than what he thought at first. However, to say that he's been vendicated by our 2 -5 start with Gibbs is rather silly. Heck, we might win the rest of our games but even if we don't, Gibbs knows what he's doing and the game hasn't passed him by. To establish something solid and something that will be a true contender, it takes time. Sure we could probably easily have a winning record and could possibly even make the playoffs this year, but still this year is about finding out who is going to be true Redskins and who is in it for the long haul. I can't stress enough how people need to be paitent because Gibbs does know what he's doing and the time, effort, and the great coaching staff that has surround him...it's almost impossible to think he'll fail.

11-05-2004, 09:40 PM	#29
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,511	You won't find a classier guy than Gibbs

11-05-2004, 10:51 PM	#30
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Matty, that's true. I'm curious to see how Gibbs would react to half of the negative press Spurrier had though.

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