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Old 02-16-2010, 02:32 PM   #16
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I could see Colt, if he were to be cut here, in Arizona, he reminds me a little bit of Kurt Warner, thats why I could see that happening. But lets give him a shot here with the first teamers before we throw him away/give up on him so soon.
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:38 PM   #17
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I would give Colt Brennan a chance over Jason Campbell . Jason Campbell is a loser but if we choose to trade back or pick up an LT with our 4th pick than I would give Brennan a chance. Can't let go off a guy without giving him a chance.
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I would give Colt Brennan a chance over Jason Campbell . Jason Campbell is a loser but if we choose to trade back or pick up an LT with our 4th pick than I would give Brennan a chance. Can't let go off a guy without giving him a chance.
Campbell is a "loser" based on what? If we had Colt or Collins in his place last season, they'd be in wheelchairs right now and we'd be picking #1 or #2 after our one-win season, only beating the Rams. Campbell did a lot with nothing to work with...no line and no running game. He's the least of our problems.

I do agree about giving him a chance in camp, which means...lose Collins.
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The Culters are always good for a laugh.
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:50 PM   #20
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Yep.


Since he was drafted, I've called him our "backup of the future". I still think that could be his long-term role for us (Jim Sorgi role) but won't start, or at least do much as a starter if it somehow happens.
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Old 02-16-2010, 03:00 PM   #21
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Bradford reminds me of Brennan. He only played out of shotgun in spread formations. The stigma about the spread qb would seem to be fading. My vote is Colt. He's held the clipboard 2 years now and he might be ready. Can you imagine what we would have to pay Bradford?
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Old 02-16-2010, 03:05 PM   #22
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How does Colt compare to Bradford? McCoy? Clausen? He also has 2 years of seasoning in the NFL. Does that put him above a rookie?
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Old 02-16-2010, 03:16 PM   #23
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Campbell is a "loser" based on what? If we had Colt or Collins in his place last season, they'd be in wheelchairs right now and we'd be picking #1 or #2 after our one-win season, only beating the Rams. Campbell did a lot with nothing to work with...no line and no running game. He's the least of our problems.

I do agree about giving him a chance in camp, which means...lose Collins.
Based on the fact that he hasn't taken us to the playoffs, isn't a good QB, and started 16 games for us last year and only won 4 of them.
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Campbell is a "loser" based on what? If we had Colt or Collins in his place last season, they'd be in wheelchairs right now and we'd be picking #1 or #2 after our one-win season, only beating the Rams. Campbell did a lot with nothing to work with...no line and no running game. He's the least of our problems.

I do agree about giving him a chance in camp, which means...lose Collins.
His 19-32 record( sad to say its a record despite his players .)

His stats are overrated. Do you really believe he deserves a 100.QB rating in the MNF eagles game that ended up blowing us out?. OR his 77% COMP rating in week one of the Giants?. See what I'm saying.


And don't bring up all the OL excuse, this kid doesn't read the defense, read the blitz,coverages ,etc. Portis made that loud and clear for a reason. And JC is very inaccurate in big down the field plays and is not a Shanahan type. A shanahan type of QB is a Jay Cutler or Bret Favre type, un-afraid gunslinngers.
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Old 02-16-2010, 03:38 PM   #25
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Stats may be overrated but so is pinning a W/L record on the QB alone. His W/L record is a reflection of the 21 other guys he's been playing with as well.
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Re: Colt Brennan vs Rookie class

I have always liked Brennan and would love if he developed into a solid starting QB for the B&G. However, the knocks on him coming out of college were; inadequate arm strength, lackluster opponents at the Univ of Hawaii, spread offense, immaturity and a less than ideal work ethic. The spread offense concern may have been corrected from his time in the NFL, but alot of that time was lost rehabbing injuries his first two seasons. I beleive his percieved lack of arm strength could be more attributed to poor lower body conditioning and form (would also explain the twice injured hip area). And I hope the immaturity and work ethic concerns are incorrect.

The perceived advantage Bradford has over Brennan is his intangibles, size, and slightly higher arm strength. Same for McCoy, except he and Brennan are of similar size. Clausen is viewed as the most "pre-ready" due to his college system and the Weis factor but, he has immaturity and personality concerns as well.

Brennan, in my opinion, deserves a FAIR shot at the starting QB job. But I would not be suprised if he is jettisoned due durability concerns (injured both of his first two years). The 2010 draft will tell us alot about the FO's opinion of Brennan. (I'm secretly pulling for him. If he can be to the B&G what he was for Hawaii then we could have a great piece at the QB to build around).
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Based on the fact that he hasn't taken us to the playoffs, isn't a good QB, and started 16 games for us last year and only won 4 of them.
He's the reason we won 4 games alright...we were a 1 or 2-win team without him. He put up good stats with no line and was taking a huge beating every week. A team with no offensive line or running game won't make the playoffs with ANYONE at QB. You can't put any (or much) blame about 4-12 on Campbell, he's one of the few players who actually tried in all 16 games and put up respectable numbers despite his team.

The O-line argument is very valid. If you were actually paying attention, you'd see him getting hit before dropping back even 3 steps a lot of the time. He couldn't make good decisions when he didn't have time to do anything. You'd see a center who can't snap the ball into his hands from the shotgun formation. Even when not getting hit, his linemen didn't know how to keep the defenders from batting the ball for INTs and defensive TDs.

Campbell's not our new Jurgenson, Kilmer or Theisman, but he's far better than he gets credit for. He showed a ton of toughness and leadership last season and kept us in most games all by himself. With a 4-12 record, we weren't blown out of games at all. He brought us back on many occasions. We nearly beat the Saints thanks to him and lost thanks to Suisham.
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Stats may be overrated but so is pinning a W/L record on the QB alone. His W/L record is a reflection of the 21 other guys he's been playing with.
Fair enough. But Jason Candle isn't a winning QB at all and isn't an elite, even with the best everything he's a game manager at best. I don't even want this guy back as our starter till Bradford comes because we will potentially not beat any good teams but struggle with bad ones. When everything works( like it did early 08) he'll put up a 1td and no int's and look OK with a 100 yard rushing RB and the WR's doing pretty good.



His 77% of 10 yards and less throws sickens me. He's obviously afraid to go deep and the OL is an excuse when Collins can hit a 45 yarder twice on the first play in the Giants and Chefs game. He's not the best guy or our answer but he showed he had enough time to throw deep. I think we could have done better with Colt Brennan or Collins, a 4-12 record is absurd.
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Nice mature debate with the namecalling.

That stat that "sickens" you is directly attributable to the lack of an O-line. It's the result of him needing to get rid of the ball within 2-3 seconds after the snap. He's shown he CAN throw deep, but no QB can even attempt deep passes with no time or protection. Anyone who blames JC for that stat doesn't know much about football, or clocks.
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Nice mature debate with the namecalling.
I can't respect a guy who got us a horrible season and did horrible against 4 winless teams and gave 2 of them there wins. I can't stand JASON CANDLE!!. Once this Candle is put out will maybe finally find some new hope .
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