Browns Reportedly Fire GM George Kokinis

12thMan · 11-02-2009, 11:17 PM

All I want to know is is he a good fit --capable fit-- for the Skins?

skinsfan_nn · 11-02-2009, 11:21 PM

The Danny should be the next to make the same move. Bye, Bye, VINNY...

SFREDSKIN · 11-02-2009, 11:27 PM

Snyder should get one of Lerner's Balls and do the same thing to Vinny, it's way overdue.

skinsfan69 · 11-02-2009, 11:37 PM

I would be willing to bet that Mangini is next. Looks like Lerner is feeling the heat from the fans and is AT LEAST doing something about it. But one of the reasons they suck is they don't have an NFL QB and they got rid of their two best offensive players. I don't think much of Brady Quinn but they've got to make a switch. Anderson is just awful.

12thMan · 11-02-2009, 11:38 PM

How could Anderson just fall off the cliff like that. One year Pro-Bowler, next year he's a bum. Just doesn't make sense.

SFREDSKIN · 11-02-2009, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would be willing to bet that Mangini is next. Looks like Lerner is feeling the heat from the fans and is AT LEAST doing something about it. But one of the reasons they suck is they don't have an NFL QB and they got rid of their two best offensive players. I don't think much of Brady Quinn but they've got to make a switch. Anderson is just awful.

Put Quinn with on a different team with a good QB coach and you'll see the difference. He actually looked semi decent last year.

GMScud · 11-02-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Snyder should get one of Lerner's Balls and do the same thing to Vinny, it's way overdue.

I agree, but I don't think it will be done until offseason. We've got no shot of salvaging this year, and there is only so much you can do with a roster in the middle of the season. Our biggest problems can't be solved with a few tweaks here and there. We need massive overhaul.

Which brings me back to Kokinis. I'd like to hear what he did that was so wrong. Maybe he's just the latest pariah in Lerner's sights. What does Lerner think this will accomplish?

12thMan · 11-02-2009, 11:47 PM

Some folks just can't work together. Doesn't mean either of them are bad people, but if Kokinis has been doing it for 13 years he won't be unemployed for long.

SmootSmack · 11-03-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

I agree, but I don't think it will be done until offseason. We've got no shot of salvaging this year, and there is only so much you can do with a roster in the middle of the season. Our biggest problems can't be solved with a few tweaks here and there. We need massive overhaul.

Which brings me back to Kokinis. I'd like to hear what he did that was so wrong. Maybe he's just the latest pariah in Lerner's sights. What does Lerner think this will accomplish?

Here's some more on the story

Cleveland Browns GM George Kokinis out; head coach Eric Mangini stays - ESPN

Pretty interesting stuff that's going on with the Browns. Fans upset, front office turmoil, the impact Quinn's contract status (gets paid extra for a certain amount of snaps) seems to be having on his playing time-though Mangini denies it...it's an interesting topic Scud. Just saying

GMScud · 11-03-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Here's some more on the story

Cleveland Browns GM George Kokinis out; head coach Eric Mangini stays - ESPN

Pretty interesting stuff that's going on with the Browns. Fans upset, front office turmoil, the impact Quinn's contract status (gets paid extra for a certain amount of snaps) seems to be having on his playing time-though Mangini denies it...it's an interesting topic Scud. Just saying

Haha. Reading you (and the subject matter) loud and clear.

skinsfan69 · 11-03-2009, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Here's some more on the story

Cleveland Browns GM George Kokinis out; head coach Eric Mangini stays - ESPN

Pretty interesting stuff that's going on with the Browns. Fans upset, front office turmoil, the impact Quinn's contract status (gets paid extra for a certain amount of snaps) seems to be having on his playing time-though Mangini denies it...it's an interesting topic Scud. Just saying

what a total mess. almost as worse as what's going on here. at least learner isn't bringing in consultants to call plays and clev's offense is worse than ours.

JLee9718 · 11-03-2009, 01:25 AM

Marty would be a great coach for Cleveland. I didn't like him as a coach here...He's the one who tried to tell Darrell Green how to play cornerback.

DBUCHANON101 · 11-03-2009, 02:38 AM

Whether you like Marty or not, you cant deny what he did with the teams he coached.
Id take him back in a heartbeat.

Chico23231 · 11-03-2009, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

All I want to know is is he a good fit --capable fit-- for the Skins?

Face it, anybody is better than Vinny/Snyder running things for sure

MTK · 11-03-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

How could Anderson just fall off the cliff like that. One year Pro-Bowler, next year he's a bum. Just doesn't make sense.

Even during that Pro Bowl year there were signs that he was doing it with smoke and mirrors, he had a lot of ups and downs through that year. And then he tailed off badly at the end.

11-02-2009, 11:17 PM	#16
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Browns Reportedly Fire GM George Kokinis All I want to know is is he a good fit --capable fit-- for the Skins?

11-02-2009, 11:21 PM	#17
skinsfan_nn Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newport News,Virginia Age: 60 Posts: 4,495	Re: Browns Reportedly Fire GM George Kokinis The Danny should be the next to make the same move. Bye, Bye, VINNY... __________________ "There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68 THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

11-02-2009, 11:27 PM	#18
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Browns Reportedly Fire GM George Kokinis Snyder should get one of Lerner's Balls and do the same thing to Vinny, it's way overdue. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

11-02-2009, 11:37 PM	#19
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,265	Re: Browns Reportedly Fire GM George Kokinis I would be willing to bet that Mangini is next. Looks like Lerner is feeling the heat from the fans and is AT LEAST doing something about it. But one of the reasons they suck is they don't have an NFL QB and they got rid of their two best offensive players. I don't think much of Brady Quinn but they've got to make a switch. Anderson is just awful.

11-02-2009, 11:38 PM	#20
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Browns Reportedly Fire GM George Kokinis How could Anderson just fall off the cliff like that. One year Pro-Bowler, next year he's a bum. Just doesn't make sense.

11-02-2009, 11:47 PM	#23
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Browns Reportedly Fire GM George Kokinis Some folks just can't work together. Doesn't mean either of them are bad people, but if Kokinis has been doing it for 13 years he won't be unemployed for long.

11-03-2009, 01:25 AM	#27
JLee9718 Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 573	Re: Browns Reportedly Fire GM George Kokinis Marty would be a great coach for Cleveland. I didn't like him as a coach here...He's the one who tried to tell Darrell Green how to play cornerback.

11-03-2009, 02:38 AM	#28
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Browns Reportedly Fire GM George Kokinis Whether you like Marty or not, you cant deny what he did with the teams he coached. Id take him back in a heartbeat. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

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