is Glenn Beck for real?

12thMan · 07-29-2009, 10:39 AM

I was more amazed by the fact no one on Fox cared to point out to Mr. Beck that Obama's mother is white and both grandparents who helped raise him were white. In my mind, the argument stops right there.

But I guess facts don't matter when you're making an emotionally based argument to begin with.

BleedBurgundy · 07-29-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I was more amazed by the fact no one on Fox cared to point out to Mr. Beck that Obama's mother is white and both grandparents who helped raise him were white. In my mind, the argument stops right there.

But I guess facts don't matter when you're making an emotionally based argument to begin with.

One drop rule coming back to haunt.

12thMan · 07-29-2009, 11:54 AM

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One drop rule coming back to haunt.

Aint it the truth.

redsk1 · 07-29-2009, 12:36 PM

Obama is not a racist he just said something stupid. He's human. It was stupid and our president needs to think before he speaks but it was a slip.

It's sad that the "race card" has to be played out so much. In this example, you have the most powerful person in America basically calling out everypolice officer in America. Calling them stupid and accusing of racism. Yeah, i know he didn't mean everyone, but there are ears listening to what the man sais. How are others going to respect the police dept when our leader doesn't.

He's not a racist but he does need to watch what he sais.

TheMalcolmConnection · 07-29-2009, 12:52 PM

What I love is that when you ask the guy for examples, he's like: "Just 'cause that's what I think."

Great proof there chief.

Trample the Elderly · 07-29-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by redsk1

Obama is not a racist he just said something stupid. He's human. It was stupid and our president needs to think before he speaks but it was a slip.

It's sad that the "race card" has to be played out so much. In this example, you have the most powerful person in America basically calling out everypolice officer in America. Calling them stupid and accusing of racism. Yeah, i know he didn't mean everyone, but there are ears listening to what the man sais. How are others going to respect the police dept when our leader doesn't.

He's not a racist but he does need to watch what he sais.

You're right. He's not a racist, he just plays one on TV.

GMScud · 07-29-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I was more amazed by the fact no one on Fox cared to point out to Mr. Beck that Obama's mother is white and both grandparents who helped raise him were white. In my mind, the argument stops right there.

But I guess facts don't matter when you're making an emotionally based argument to begin with.

Exactly. Kind of like Obama saying the cops acted stupidly in the first place despite the facts.

12thMan · 07-29-2009, 09:16 PM

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Exactly. Kind of like Obama saying the cops acted stupidly in the first place despite the facts.

Sure, if you want to draw that type of comparison.

GMScud · 07-29-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Sure, if you want to draw that type of comparison.

For the record I do not think that Obama is racist. I do however think he was acting stupidly when he said the Cambridge police were, ummm, acting stupidly. I don't care if he felt that way about the situation, it should have been left unsaid.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 07-29-2009, 10:43 PM

I would compare Beck's charge of racism to those who charged Bush of being racist because of the Katrina response. Both statements are irresponsible and neither statement has any credibility.

While I don't believe the President to be a racist, I do believe he allowed his personal friendship with Gates to cloud his judgement and make the statement he did without all the facts.

Zerohero · 07-29-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Exactly. Kind of like Obama saying the cops acted stupidly in the first place despite the facts.

You find out lot more bout a person without the teleprompter telling him what to say.

CRedskinsRule · 07-30-2009, 12:07 AM

^^ that is why I always carry my handy-dandy prompt cam. It always tells me what to say, and just the right way too

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GMScud · 07-30-2009, 12:48 AM

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^^ that is why I always carry my handy-dandy prompt cam. It always tells me what to say, and just the right way too

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LOL. Maybe Rhambo should get that for Obama

JoeRedskin · 07-30-2009, 06:50 AM

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^^ that is why I always carry my handy-dandy prompt cam. It always tells me what to say, and just the right way too

Oh please, like any device could "prompt" men on how to talk to girlfriends/wives. The damn think would give you the blank screen the first time it encountered a woman during PMS.

joethiesmanfan · 07-30-2009, 09:36 AM

The cops acted stupidly point blank period. The charges were dropped, couldn't stand up in any court of law even in South Carolina. In this system the cops can arrest you but the prosecutor has to prosecute. Now how can you prosecute if no crime was committed? Calling someone a racists who is not a racist is not a crime. Glenn Beck's point exactly. He was doing to Obama what Professor Gates did to the cop. The cops reaction was weak, he should have been more professional. You don't arrest people who have not committed a crime, unless you want the prosecutor to look at you like you acted stupidly when he has to drop the charges and apologize. I don't think the officer is racist, I just think he needs vacation or something. As for the black police officers. They better agree with the other cops, everyone understands that cops stick together.

07-29-2009, 10:39 AM	#16
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: is Glenn Beck for real? I was more amazed by the fact no one on Fox cared to point out to Mr. Beck that Obama's mother is white and both grandparents who helped raise him were white. In my mind, the argument stops right there. But I guess facts don't matter when you're making an emotionally based argument to begin with.

07-29-2009, 12:36 PM	#19
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: is Glenn Beck for real? Obama is not a racist he just said something stupid. He's human. It was stupid and our president needs to think before he speaks but it was a slip. It's sad that the "race card" has to be played out so much. In this example, you have the most powerful person in America basically calling out everypolice officer in America. Calling them stupid and accusing of racism. Yeah, i know he didn't mean everyone, but there are ears listening to what the man sais. How are others going to respect the police dept when our leader doesn't. He's not a racist but he does need to watch what he sais.

07-29-2009, 12:52 PM	#20
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: is Glenn Beck for real? What I love is that when you ask the guy for examples, he's like: "Just 'cause that's what I think." Great proof there chief. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

07-29-2009, 10:43 PM	#25
Slingin Sammy 33 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 4,347	Re: is Glenn Beck for real? I would compare Beck's charge of racism to those who charged Bush of being racist because of the Katrina response. Both statements are irresponsible and neither statement has any credibility. While I don't believe the President to be a racist, I do believe he allowed his personal friendship with Gates to cloud his judgement and make the statement he did without all the facts. __________________ "I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.

07-30-2009, 12:07 AM	#27
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,401	Re: is Glenn Beck for real? ^^ that is why I always carry my handy-dandy prompt cam. It always tells me what to say, and just the right way too 6 payments of 29.99 Not sold in stores Call now 1-800-PROMPT ME. And receive afree copy of THE DUMMIES GUIDE TO TELEPROMPTING YOUR WAY THROUGH LIFE Shipping and handling not included. Teleprompts RUs is not liable for any speeches made while using this product

07-30-2009, 09:36 AM	#30
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: is Glenn Beck for real? The cops acted stupidly point blank period. The charges were dropped, couldn't stand up in any court of law even in South Carolina. In this system the cops can arrest you but the prosecutor has to prosecute. Now how can you prosecute if no crime was committed? Calling someone a racists who is not a racist is not a crime. Glenn Beck's point exactly. He was doing to Obama what Professor Gates did to the cop. The cops reaction was weak, he should have been more professional. You don't arrest people who have not committed a crime, unless you want the prosecutor to look at you like you acted stupidly when he has to drop the charges and apologize. I don't think the officer is racist, I just think he needs vacation or something. As for the black police officers. They better agree with the other cops, everyone understands that cops stick together.

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