Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta for a 2010 2nd round pick

Nflnick11 · 04-23-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

and Philly. I heard they were in the mix too...

AGREED! You know how hard it would be to defend the eagles twice a year with a smart TE when our OLB spot is shaky right now...good thing we have to play him once this year, and matt ryans gonna look even better

Lotus · 04-23-2009, 10:30 PM

I'm not taking anything away from Gonzalez, who is a tight end god, but a #2 for him is too much. He's 33. At best they get a couple of declining years out of him. At worst he is Atlanta's Jason Taylor.

MTK · 04-23-2009, 10:31 PM

Yeah he's only coming off his 2nd straight 1,000 yard season and 90+ catches

Lotus · 04-23-2009, 10:55 PM

Yes...and he is also a year older. I didn't argue that he was a has-been. I in fact called him a tight end god. I argued that it is he is at an age where decline begins.

Stuck in TX · 04-23-2009, 11:00 PM

See ya in the playoffs, Tony! Welcome to the NFC...

MTK · 04-23-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Yes...and he is also a year older. I didn't argue that he was a has-been. I in fact called him a tight end god. I argued that it is he is at an age where decline begins.

Perhaps, but even if his play falls off to something like 60 catches for the next few years I think they'll get their moneys worth. Good deal for Atlanta especially considering they didn't have to give up a pick this year.

Lotus · 04-23-2009, 11:15 PM

I argued that a #2 is too steep a price. Gonzalez himself agreed with me last October:
Welcome to the Official Website of Tony Gonzalez #88

MTK · 04-23-2009, 11:16 PM

Too steep? I'm surprised they didn't get more for him actually.

GMScud · 04-23-2009, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah he's only coming off his 2nd straight 1,000 yard season and 90+ catches

In a lame offense nonetheless. Now he's got Roddy White, Michael Turner, and no-longer-a-rookie QB Matt Ryan. He could have a few really good years in that ATL offense. Definitely worth a 2nd rounder a year from now. Good move for Atlanta.

MTK · 04-23-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

In a lame offense nonetheless. Now he's got Roddy White, Michael Turner, and no-longer-a-rookie QB Matt Ryan. He could have a few really good years in that ATL offense. Definitely worth a 2nd rounder a year from now. Good move for Atlanta.

If they get some help on D with this draft they could be scary.

GMScud · 04-23-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If they get some help on D with this draft they could be scary.

The fact that they have a legit, young set of triplets in Ryan, White, and Turner means to me they'll be good for a while. Their D needs a fair amount of help, but Mike Smith will have it up and running sooner rather than later.

MTK · 04-23-2009, 11:33 PM

Yeah that offense is looking very formidable now.

GTripp0012 · 04-24-2009, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah that offense is looking very formidable now.

Yeah, who would have thought there's more to building an NFL team than 1) picking in the top five, and 2) getting lucky with your evaluations. Not me, that's for sure.

GTripp0012 · 04-24-2009, 01:00 AM

I have to be consistent here: I hated when the Redskins dealt a second rounder for a mid-30s player who was about to dropoff severely, and it doesn't make any more since for a young Falcons team. They really seem to be underestimating how much of that +7 win improvement was due to unrepeatable circumstance. Not unlike Cleveland last year.

With that said, they are still set on improving via the draft this year, so they have that on the Browns.

skins89moss · 04-24-2009, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GridIron26

I would be greatly upset with the FO if we trade Cooley away - he is one of the best TEs in NFL (plus he's young).. (Just as I would be w/ the FO if we draft Sanchez but) Unfortunately, my feelings nor any other fans' doesn't matter to Redskins FO and I would continue to be Redskins fan, no matter what.. That will be difficult for me - hating and loving Redskins at same time..

I know, we have Fred Davis but he hasn't shown anything on field yet.. Do we really want to gamble on Davis?

I like Chris Cooleys game bro he is just a beast when gets the ball in his hands. I hope instead of using Cooley we can trade Davis. He is young and has the skills to be a very good TE. We better keep Cooley or we must be losing our dam minds in the Front Office.

04-23-2009, 10:30 PM	#17
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta for a 2010 2nd round pick I'm not taking anything away from Gonzalez, who is a tight end god, but a #2 for him is too much. He's 33. At best they get a couple of declining years out of him. At worst he is Atlanta's Jason Taylor. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

04-23-2009, 10:31 PM	#18
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04-23-2009, 10:55 PM	#19
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta for a 2010 2nd round pick Yes...and he is also a year older. I didn't argue that he was a has-been. I in fact called him a tight end god. I argued that it is he is at an age where decline begins. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

04-23-2009, 11:00 PM	#20
Stuck in TX Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Age: 39 Posts: 545	Re: Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta for a 2010 2nd round pick See ya in the playoffs, Tony! Welcome to the NFC... __________________ We will miss you Sean. RIP 1983-2007 REMEMBER VT Go Hokies

04-23-2009, 11:15 PM	#22
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta for a 2010 2nd round pick I argued that a #2 is too steep a price. Gonzalez himself agreed with me last October: Welcome to the Official Website of Tony Gonzalez #88 __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

04-23-2009, 11:16 PM	#23
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,706	Re: Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta for a 2010 2nd round pick Too steep? I'm surprised they didn't get more for him actually. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-23-2009, 11:33 PM	#27
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,706	Re: Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta for a 2010 2nd round pick Yeah that offense is looking very formidable now. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-24-2009, 01:00 AM	#29
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta for a 2010 2nd round pick I have to be consistent here: I hated when the Redskins dealt a second rounder for a mid-30s player who was about to dropoff severely, and it doesn't make any more since for a young Falcons team. They really seem to be underestimating how much of that +7 win improvement was due to unrepeatable circumstance. Not unlike Cleveland last year. With that said, they are still set on improving via the draft this year, so they have that on the Browns. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

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