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[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by DirtyLandry

So the consensus is a punter and a couple of guys who have never played a down in the NFL.

Haynesworth has money written all over him.

[DirtyLandry]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Haynesworth has money written all over him.

Some would argue that Haynesworth is not only the most dominant player at his position, but the most dominant player in the league. In making my case for one player, I pointed out how such a force at DT could vastly improve and entire side of the ball. I would rather give a proven stud tackle in his prime a shit ton of cash than take a gamble on some kid from college. Also, why break tradition? We're a team that spends high dollar amounts on free agents and if we're gonna continue the trend, then this should be the guy to do it with.

[skinsfaninok]

ANQUAN BOLDIN!!!! Is a True Stud #1 WR, this would mean Moss can be a very good Num2, and Thomas can be the 3. I would trade our 13th Pick and Randel El to AZ... We can add a DL or OL later in the draft or via F.A.

Think about it.. Boldin,Moss,Cooley,Portis WOW!

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

ANQUAN BOLDIN!!!! Is a True Stud #1 WR, this would mean Moss can be a very good Num2, and Thomas can be the 3. I would trade our 13th Pick and Randel El to AZ... We can add a DL or OL later in the draft or via F.A.

Think about it.. Boldin,Moss,Cooley,Portis WOW!

I would like to see El in the slot next year for us.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by DirtyLandry

Some would argue that Haynesworth is not only the most dominant player at his position, but the most dominant player in the league. In making my case for one player, I pointed out how such a force at DT could vastly improve and entire side of the ball. I would rather give a proven stud tackle in his prime a shit ton of cash than take a gamble on some kid from college. Also, why break tradition? We're a team that spends high dollar amounts on free agents and if we're gonna continue the trend, then this should be the guy to do it with.

It's a tradition I'd wish they'd get away from. If it is an uncapped year in 2010 I can see the logic. If it's not we'll have to eat a big s**t sandwich in cap space. Personally, I'd like to start developing our own Haynesworths, Dansbys, and Jacobs.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

ANQUAN BOLDIN!!!! Is a True Stud #1 WR, this would mean Moss can be a very good Num2, and Thomas can be the 3. I would trade our 13th Pick and Randel El to AZ... We can add a DL or OL later in the draft or via F.A.

Think about it.. Boldin,Moss,Cooley,Portis WOW!

Easy there. We've spent a lot of effort as a team trying to bring in recievers and have even had them in the past. Most recent ones being Coles during his first year with us and Moss during his first year with us, and Cooley over the last three or four years. The most it's gotten is us is one playoff game. Ironically I'd argue the reasons we made the playoffs when we did was mainly in part because of the acquisitions we made on the O-line since Jansen, subquently leading us to acquire Samuals, Dockery, Thomas, Rabach, and Kendall. We're at our best when our O-Line is healthy and teams have proven time and time again that the Madden dream team lineup's rarely work, with the Lions being the poster child followed by the Bengals. Arizona is an exception to that rule and they came complete with an elite Quarterback in Kurt Warner.

I believe you also saw how well Campbell can be when he has time to throw as well as a running game to supplement our offense and you also saw how poorly we did when our O-line crumbled. Adding another reciever that will not only take us out a high draft pick not to mention valuable salary capspace is not the answer.

One things for sure we have to add a Tackle, preferably a right tackle that can later become a left tackle. Unfortunately I might have to seatle for Jordan Gross, which wouldn't be the worse thing. He's remained healthy for most of his career and elite tackles have proven they can be effective till their mid 30's. On top of that he can play Left Tackle so should Samuels go down we would have a guy that could at least protect JC's blind side.

Still I would much rather see the team draft a guy that we can use for the next 5 to 10 years instead of a guy that might last 3 to 5 years if we're lucky. Of course he'll probably bring in a seven year contract so that'll help. Hell if I get my way the team will walk away with a RT/LT hybrid in the first and a Center in the third, but that will not happen.

A revamped O-line that can get at least three new starters on the field will give JC the time he needs while our freaking fleet of wideouts attempts to get open. On top of that we'll be able to get back our running game which is critical as this teams style ever since Gibbs came back has been to close out games on the ground which is fine because we have the defense that can back us up.

However I will say it was hillarious at the pro bowl when Portis turned to Boldin and said "WHAT UP TEAMMATE!"

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

It's a tradition I'd wish they'd get away from. If it is an uncapped year in 2010 I can see the logic. If it's not we'll have to eat a big s**t sandwich in cap space. Personally, I'd like to start developing our own Haynesworths, Dansbys, and Jacobs.

Exactly, and who knows how Haynesworth will play once he gets his fat contract? That's the kind of thing Snyder use to do and got us into this mess to begin with.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Easy there. We've spent a lot of effort as a team trying to bring in recievers and have even had them in the past. Most recent ones being Coles during his first year with us and Moss during his first year with us, and Cooley over the last three or four years. The most it's gotten is us is one playoff game. Ironically I'd argue the reasons we made the playoffs when we did was mainly in part because of the acquisitions we made on the O-line since Jansen, subquently leading us to acquire Samuals, Dockery, Thomas, Rabach, and Kendall. We're at our best when our O-Line is healthy and teams have proven time and time again that the Madden dream team lineup's rarely work, with the Lions being the poster child followed by the Bengals. Arizona is an exception to that rule and they came complete with an elite Quarterback in Kurt Warner.

I believe you also saw how well Campbell can be when he has time to throw as well as a running game to supplement our offense and you also saw how poorly we did when our O-line crumbled. Adding another reciever that will not only take us out a high draft pick not to mention valuable salary capspace is not the answer.

One things for sure we have to add a Tackle, preferably a right tackle that can later become a left tackle. Unfortunately I might have to seatle for Jordan Gross, which wouldn't be the worse thing. He's remained healthy for most of his career and elite tackles have proven they can be effective till their mid 30's. On top of that he can play Left Tackle so should Samuels go down we would have a guy that could at least protect JC's blind side.

Still I would much rather see the team draft a guy that we can use for the next 5 to 10 years instead of a guy that might last 3 to 5 years if we're lucky. Of course he'll probably bring in a seven year contract so that'll help. Hell if I get my way the team will walk away with a RT/LT hybrid in the first and a Center in the third, but that will not happen.

A revamped O-line that can get at least three new starters on the field will give JC the time he needs while our freaking fleet of wideouts attempts to get open. On top of that we'll be able to get back our running game which is critical as this teams style ever since Gibbs came back has been to close out games on the ground which is fine because we have the defense that can back us up.

However I will say it was hillarious at the pro bowl when Portis turned to Boldin and said "WHAT UP TEAMMATE!"

So you're saying Jordan Gross Dirtbag?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

So you're saying Jordan Gross Dirtbag?

More or less yes. Only from the position on what I think the front office might do. If it were me I would spend our first two draft picks on a RT and a Center or Guard (especially if a guy like Herman Johnson fell to us in the third). Then sign a stopgap at OLB then wait for next years draft to focus on the D-Line and hope that a change in mentality will equal a more productive defensive front. Still the O-Line is in the burning building while the D-Line is stuck in the building next to the burning building.

[The Goat]

Well first off a stud RT @ 13 is the easy answer... Monroe or Jason Smith are my top picks but any of the top four should be starters.

... the interesting case though is Suggs. Basically i see it this way: SLB is going to be a need because Marcus and the FO seem to have mutually agreed to part ways. So we have to address a need and it's an opportunity to add a playmaker within the front seven at the same time. I don't have a problem w/ big Albert if we had the money to address the need @ SLB and sign another big FA... but regardless I think Suggs will make a bigger impact than haynesworth. Suggs is a monster tackler and a guy who can rush the QB whenever the call comes in, and just from listening to him you get the idea he loves the game. Haynesworth IMO will not perform at a high level when he gets his payday... he'll take more downs off and struggle to stay motivated. I also don't think his potential would be maximized in our system where the DTs always appear to plug gaps and mash the run before pushing toward the QB... i could easily be wrong here but that's what I think i see.

[jamf]

Jonathan Vilma MLB:
He is a natural MLB but he is athletic enough to play OLB(Replacing M.Washington). After a year or possibly two, we can move him back to MLB to replace Fletcher.

He won't brake the bank and is only 25 or 26 years old. He has a legal matter pending but it still think he is worth the risk.

He will be cheaper than Suggs and I think he fits our system better than Suggs.

[jamf]

Or
Ade Jimoh!

[DCtoAZ]

Troy Vincent .... just for Dallas Week's .... just in case

[Riverwolf]

[QUOTE=The Goat SLB is going to be a need because Marcus and the FO seem to have mutually agreed to part ways.[/QUOTE] Haven't heard that yet but with as many injuries as he has it makes sense as well as Springs,Love em but we need younger capable bodies.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

ANQUAN BOLDIN!!!! Is a True Stud #1 WR, this would mean Moss can be a very good Num2, and Thomas can be the 3. I would trade our 13th Pick and Randel El to AZ... We can add a DL or OL later in the draft or via F.A.

Think about it.. Boldin,Moss,Cooley,Portis WOW!

Im thinking about it... JC gets the snap Boldin, Moss, Cooley running their routes. No protection for JC. JC cant find recievers. SACK! or kill Portis again!Official Site of the Arizona Cardinals


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