Did we get lucky not to be called for PI?

724Skinsfan · 09-22-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DiehardSkin88

Not PI. The ball was terribly overthrown, they're not supposed to call pass interference if its a terrible ball

I agree. I'm not so sure that the ball was catchable. But, I think it's hard to say from that angle.
As for Leigh Torrence, he clearly had position to make the catch. PI isn't really all that debatable on that play:

Actions that do not constitute pass interference include but are not limited to:
e) Contact by a defender who has gained position on a receiver in an attempt to catch the ball.

GMScud · 09-22-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

I agree. I'm not so sure that the ball was catchable. But, I think it's hard to say from that angle.
As for Leigh Torrence, he clearly had position to make the catch. PI isn't really all that debatable on that play:
Actions that do not constitute pass interference include but are not limited to:
e) Contact by a defender who has gained position on a receiver in an attempt to catch the ball.

Good call. Right you are. Or right the officials were I guess.

DirtyLandry · 09-22-2008, 10:13 PM

Yeah he got there early but on the same token I think they called Los for PI on a crucial 3rd down for them and from what I saw on that replay it was a complete BS call. Point is, they had a few go they're way too.

hooskins · 09-22-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyLandry

Yeah he got there early but on the same token I think they called Los for PI on a crucial 3rd down for them and from what I saw on that replay it was a complete BS call. Point is, they had a few go they're way too.

Sure, and Devin Thomas really didn't push off compared to other receivers, but that doesnt change the fact we might have gotten a bit lucky it wasn't called because it seemed like an obvious call to me.

GMScud · 09-22-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyLandry

Yeah he got there early but on the same token I think they called Los for PI on a crucial 3rd down for them and from what I saw on that replay it was a complete BS call. Point is, they had a few go they're way too.

Not only did he get there early but it looked like he kinda just decked him before the ball got there. Granted it was within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage, but that couldn't have been legal.

Yeah, that PI on Carlos on that 3rd down was really ticky tack.

53Fan · 09-23-2008, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyLandry

Yeah he got there early but on the same token I think they called Los for PI on a crucial 3rd down for them and from what I saw on that replay it was a complete BS call. Point is, they had a few go they're way too.

Absolutely. I think they got pretty lucky too. Like on that BS call against Heyer. We have a TD called back on a foul that had nothing to do with the play itself.

hooskins · 09-22-2008, 10:14 PM

GMScud, yeah im not too sure, seems like Fletch got a good hit before the pass. But I guess that's why im asking you all.

hooskins · 09-22-2008, 10:19 PM

hmm, this and the heyer penalty, wow I really need to brush up on the NFL Rulebook because I have no idea.

DirtyLandry · 09-22-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

hmm, this and the heyer penalty, wow I really need to brush up on the NFL Rulebook because I have no idea.

They were saying on Comcast postgame live that that the league office had sent a letter to officials a week before stating to "keep the players safe". Still a lame ass call.

hooskins · 09-22-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyLandry

They were saying on Comcast postgame live that that the league office had sent a letter to officials a week before stating to "keep the players safe". Still a lame ass call.

Thats bullshit, because the refs need to call the game by the book. If the comish wants to hand out punishment after the game, then so be it.

DirtyLandry · 09-22-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Thats bullshit, because the refs need to call the game by the book. If the comish wants to hand out punishment after the game, then so be it.

Agreed. At first I liked the Goodell hire, but every passing day it seems like he's not so good for the game.

CRedskinsRule · 09-22-2008, 10:45 PM

I think we need JoeRedskins help! I looked at the rule book and the play and the rule book and the play. Good thing I 'm not a lawyer!!!

personally, none of the Cards were screaming(not even Warner) so it was probably ok

hooskins · 09-22-2008, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think we need JoeRedskins help! I looked at the rule book and the play and the rule book and the play. Good thing I 'm not a lawyer!!!

personally, none of the Cards were screaming(not even Warner) so it was probably ok

The Cards fans sitting around me were going crazy and us Skins fans were hella quiet. At the game and looking at the replay it just looks ify to me.

CRedskinsRule · 09-22-2008, 10:52 PM

ok, wish i coulda been there being silent, anyway, i was just talking about the player that was popped. he just got up and went on with it, at least in the video. either way, glad it went our way.

rypper11 · 09-22-2008, 11:14 PM

By rule, neither play was PI. Torrence was in perfect position (for a change) and has every right to go for the ball. Look at Fletcher's play at the end in slow motion, the Cardinal tripped over his own feet.
As for the Cards delay of game, there is no way to tell. I don't know of an angle that shows the snap that has a playclock in it too. I do believe that most of the D stopped while the official was running in before the ball was snapped so the play wouldn't have gone for a TD anyway.

09-22-2008, 10:13 PM	#3
DirtyLandry Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: lost in the sauce Posts: 377	Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI? Yeah he got there early but on the same token I think they called Los for PI on a crucial 3rd down for them and from what I saw on that replay it was a complete BS call. Point is, they had a few go they're way too.

09-22-2008, 10:14 PM	#7
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI? GMScud, yeah im not too sure, seems like Fletch got a good hit before the pass. But I guess that's why im asking you all. __________________ Vacancy

09-22-2008, 10:19 PM	#8
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI? hmm, this and the heyer penalty, wow I really need to brush up on the NFL Rulebook because I have no idea. __________________ Vacancy

09-22-2008, 10:45 PM	#12
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,701	Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI? I think we need JoeRedskins help! I looked at the rule book and the play and the rule book and the play. Good thing I 'm not a lawyer!!! personally, none of the Cards were screaming(not even Warner) so it was probably ok

09-22-2008, 10:52 PM	#14
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,701	Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI? ok, wish i coulda been there being silent, anyway, i was just talking about the player that was popped. he just got up and went on with it, at least in the video. either way, glad it went our way.

09-22-2008, 11:14 PM	#15
rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,228	Re: Did we get lucky not to be called for PI? By rule, neither play was PI. Torrence was in perfect position (for a change) and has every right to go for the ball. Look at Fletcher's play at the end in slow motion, the Cardinal tripped over his own feet. As for the Cards delay of game, there is no way to tell. I don't know of an angle that shows the snap that has a playclock in it too. I do believe that most of the D stopped while the official was running in before the ball was snapped so the play wouldn't have gone for a TD anyway. __________________ Playing a kids game for a kings ransom.

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