Justin Smith

MTK · 02-29-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

He's very durable- he's started all 16 games every year since 2002, but is he really that great?? His sack totals the past 4 seasons: 2, 7.5, 6, 8. 2 sacks last year in 16 starts?? Chris Wilson doubled that number last year and didn't start a single game. I don't know if I'd call Justin Smith a "baller."

As SS alludes to he's a very solid all around player. You can't judge him on sacks alone. He'll never be a sack demon, but he plays the run well and plays with a high motor.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 02-29-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

He's very durable- he's started all 16 games every year since 2002, but is he really that great?? His sack totals the past 4 seasons: 2, 7.5, 6, 8. 2 sacks last year in 16 starts?? Chris Wilson doubled that number last year and didn't start a single game. I don't know if I'd call Justin Smith a "baller."

Thats such a misleading statistic...Only coming in the game on 3rd and 16 is a lot different than having to tackle running backs every other down. How many sacks and tackles did the DT next to him have? Or the outside linebacker on his side?

BleedBurgundy · 02-29-2008, 04:35 PM

Not to mention he draws a double team on the majority of snaps. This is one guy I would love to see us go and get.

GMScud · 02-29-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

As SS alludes to he's a very solid all around player. You can't judge him on sacks alone. He'll never be a sack demon, but he plays the run well and plays with a high motor.

I never said the guy wasn't good. I understand he plays the run well and has a great motor, but has often been mentioned on this board as a pass-rush compliment to Andre Carter. I think we'd be better off drafting D-lineman than paying huge $$ for a guy like him. The FA market isn't that great this year. Guys are getting overpaid everywhere- $30M for Jerry Porter? $3M/yr for Cleo Lemon? $33M for Madieu Williams? I'm glad we're not a big player right now.

MTK · 02-29-2008, 04:46 PM

I hear ya I don't want him either with the way these contracts are going again this year.

SkinsFanSince91 · 02-29-2008, 05:01 PM

I think if we made him our only real free agent "splash," then that would free us up to do a lot of things in the draft. D-Line could be a priority to be handled in later rounds. In the first we could go CB, WR, or O-Line

SKINSnCANES · 02-29-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

I never said the guy wasn't good. I understand he plays the run well and has a great motor, but has often been mentioned on this board as a pass-rush compliment to Andre Carter. I think we'd be better off drafting D-lineman than paying huge $$ for a guy like him. The FA market isn't that great this year. Guys are getting overpaid everywhere- $30M for Jerry Porter? $3M/yr for Cleo Lemon? $33M for Madieu Williams? I'm glad we're not a big player right now.

$3 million a year for Todd Collins!

GMScud · 02-29-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

$3 million a year for Todd Collins!

Yeah, but only $4M is guaranteed, which is what pretty much everyone expected him to get regardless of where he signed. Plus he's already one of our own. A sound move.

SKINSnCANES · 02-29-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Yeah, but only $4M is guaranteed, which is what pretty much everyone expected him to get regardless of where he signed. Plus he's already one of our own. A sound move.

Yea Ive got no problem with him as a backup, he doesnt have the arm strength in my opinion to be a starter, but anyways thats not point, i was just joking about the list of signings thats all.

All we can do is joke, normally we would be watchign four or five press conferences by now...

GMScud · 02-29-2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

Yea Ive got no problem with him as a backup, he doesnt have the arm strength in my opinion to be a starter, but anyways thats not point, i was just joking about the list of signings thats all.

All we can do is joke, normally we would be watchign four or five press conferences by now...

And chances are if we had any extra $$ this year nothing would have changed and we'd have a few big names already under the belt.

rypper11 · 02-29-2008, 09:09 PM

I've said it every post about FA's and I think it deserves saying here. Give me one FA this year and I want Justin Smith. Everything else can be addressed in the draft or June 1 cuts. I want this man more than I wanted April (name excluded to protect the innocent) in Middle School. Just one big dollar guy. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SmootSmack · 02-29-2008, 09:23 PM

My Justin Smith bandwagon seems to be getting rather crowded...regardless I think by Monday he'll be signed but not to us (Minnesota maybe?), and I'll have to begin a new bandwagon

freddyg12 · 03-01-2008, 10:24 AM

espn radio reported he signed w/the 49ers. So he didn't sign w/us but he did w/the new Skins. The 49ers are definitely trying to sign everybody.

I think it was 6 yr./45mil w/20 guaranteed, but don't quote me on that.

dirthogs311 · 03-01-2008, 10:36 AM

ESPN - 49ers lock up defensive end Smith with 6-year, $45 million deal - NFL

diehardskin2982 · 03-01-2008, 10:57 AM

good i didn't want him to come here at all

02-29-2008, 04:35 PM	#18
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Justin Smith Not to mention he draws a double team on the majority of snaps. This is one guy I would love to see us go and get. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

02-29-2008, 04:46 PM	#20
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02-29-2008, 05:01 PM	#21
SkinsFanSince91 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 368	Re: Justin Smith I think if we made him our only real free agent "splash," then that would free us up to do a lot of things in the draft. D-Line could be a priority to be handled in later rounds. In the first we could go CB, WR, or O-Line __________________ http://zstiojar.edu.pl/68560

02-29-2008, 09:09 PM	#26
rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,228	Re: Justin Smith I've said it every post about FA's and I think it deserves saying here. Give me one FA this year and I want Justin Smith. Everything else can be addressed in the draft or June 1 cuts. I want this man more than I wanted April (name excluded to protect the innocent) in Middle School. Just one big dollar guy. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Playing a kids game for a kings ransom.

02-29-2008, 09:23 PM	#27
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Justin Smith My Justin Smith bandwagon seems to be getting rather crowded...regardless I think by Monday he'll be signed but not to us (Minnesota maybe?), and I'll have to begin a new bandwagon __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-01-2008, 10:24 AM	#28
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Justin Smith espn radio reported he signed w/the 49ers. So he didn't sign w/us but he did w/the new Skins. The 49ers are definitely trying to sign everybody. I think it was 6 yr./45mil w/20 guaranteed, but don't quote me on that.

03-01-2008, 10:36 AM	#29
dirthogs311 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: College Station, TX Age: 40 Posts: 305	Re: Justin Smith ESPN - 49ers lock up defensive end Smith with 6-year, $45 million deal - NFL __________________ Al Michaels Midnight Miracle: SEAN TAYLOR CAME UP AND LEVELED HIM, I'll say....

03-01-2008, 10:57 AM	#30
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Justin Smith good i didn't want him to come here at all __________________ That got ugly fast

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