May the Schwartz be with you?

JoeRedskin · 01-10-2008, 02:48 PM

Another bio:

Titans Radio: Titans Defensive Coordinator Jim Schwartz

Interesting that he spent time as a scout.

And, obviously, he is not an individual who will satisfy the Rooney Rule.

freddyg12 · 01-10-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

All the stuff about letting the coaches know and giving them indications blah blah blah is garbage...Unless they want to get their butts sued, they can't go around saying we're interviewing x number of candidates but *wink* *wink* we already have our man

True, but from the last paragraph of JLC's blog, I don't take it that way. It sounds like DS hasn't even communicated w/the coaches, which is a far cry from telling someone they have the job. Seems if you knew who you wanted to hire, you'd at least have the proffessional courtesy to communicate something to them when they're currently on your pay roll.

JoeRedskin · 01-10-2008, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

All the stuff about letting the coaches know and giving them indications blah blah blah is garbage...Unless they want to get their butts sued, they can't go around saying we're interviewing x number of candidates but *wink* *wink* we already have our man

I think that happened in Detroit when they hired Mariucci. As I recall, they got slammed. I don't remember, however, if Matt "I was a teenage GM" Millen even interviewed a minority candidate.

BTW - with the various openings, I find it interesting that one of last years hot coaches is not even being mentioned - Rob Rivera. I wonder why that is, especially since he seems to fit the Rooney Rule.

lespaul · 01-10-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

True, but from the last paragraph of JLC's blog, I don't take it that way. It sounds like DS hasn't even communicated w/the coaches, which is a far cry from telling someone they have the job. Seems if you knew who you wanted to hire, you'd at least have the proffessional courtesy to communicate something to them when they're currently on your pay roll.

If Gibbs is going to be Snyder's advisor,start advising already. Well there is always a chance Gibbs don't want GW to get the gig,but that's hard to fathom.

I guess we will just have to continue to pull our hair out and wait and see.

70Chip · 01-10-2008, 02:55 PM

I'm seriously wondering if the text of the Rooney Rule says "minority" or "African-American" or what? I can't find any actual text and all the articles I've read use the two terms interchangably as if they meant exactly the same thing. A little help?

lespaul · 01-10-2008, 02:57 PM

I can't find anything either except what I already know about the rule which isn't too much.

BDBohnzie · 01-10-2008, 03:00 PM

The Rooney Rule doesn't apply to assistant coaches promoted to being Head Coach, which in this case, would apply to Gregg Williams...

70Chip · 01-10-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

The Rooney Rule doesn't apply to assistant coaches promoted to being Head Coach, which in this case, would apply to Gregg Williams...

Not so. The assistant has to have a clause in his contract promising him the job, which Williams never had apparently.

BDBohnzie · 01-10-2008, 03:02 PM

That's what I get for quickly browsing what I was reading instead of reading it fully...

stone · 01-10-2008, 03:03 PM

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The Rooney Rule, named for Steelers owner Dan Rooney, requires teams to interview at least one minority candidate when filling a head coaching position -- or be fined.

I tried to post a link but i can't... i don't have 10 posts yet.

70Chip · 01-10-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by stone

I tried to post a link but i can't... i don't have 10 posts yet.

Yeah, quotes like that are all over the place. What I was hoping to see was something that the league actually put out like, you know, Artcle II Section 7 "Promoting Diversity" All NFL teams, blah, blah, bah.

I know the CBA is on the net, but I don't know if the leagues by-laws or whatever are. Somebody here should know. That Guy? GTripp? Canuck? Earthquake?

Did more looking: This article seems to indicate that "minority" is the operative term:

ESPN - Thanks to Rooney Rule, doors opened - NFL

bertoskins2 · 01-10-2008, 03:11 PM

titans defense this year is overrated and solely dependent on Hynesworths play, without him the titans defense is not better the GW's defense. yes they came from the same titans great superbowl run defense, but GW is more familiar here, with player's support and has learned from Gibb's and from his previous mistake as a HC of the Bills. Im still for GW. please Mr. snyder.

celts32 · 01-10-2008, 03:13 PM

Perhaps Gibbs is not endorsing GW as head coach. Knowing how much Danny respects Gibbs you would have to think that Gibbs and Dan have discussed the possibility of GW as head coach behind closed doors. Although Gibbs would not say anything publicly he would surely give Dan his true feelings about GW behind closed doors. Maybe Gibbs thinks GW is just a DC and not the best choice as HC. I firmly believe that if Gibbs 100% endorced GW as his successor that he would be the lead candidate without question.

MonkFan4Life · 01-10-2008, 03:17 PM

I think this is all smoke and mirrors. They know it's going to be Gregg and all the coaches know it's going to be Gregg, but they aren't letting anyone on. I'm hoping that Joe discussed this with Dan during that conversation that lasted to 2 in the morning. I'm hoping that Joe and Dan talked to the coaches and let them know what was going to happen, or maybe no one knows but Gregg, Joe, and Dan. That they know Gregg is getting it but are pretty much saying to the media, "I'm not gonna tell, your feet smell, you ask me again and you can go to hell"

I'm hoping that's the way it's going to go. That Gregg will be named coach, but not until everyone proclaims that The Danny is going to sign whatever coach they want to say he will. Maybe Dan learned from Joe. Let's hope for our sakes.

Cooley1 · 01-10-2008, 03:18 PM

I think they are just trying to line up a few candidates while playing the PR game with our heads, like..........lets make them wait and get more and more intrigued about Greg for a week or so, then we will hit um with the goods...................."And your next coach for the Washington Redskins, Greg Williams"! – hopeful / wishful thinking I presume.

Then we will all be so excited about our team and continue to waste our hard earned dollars on more Redskins Merchandise and ticket increases..

01-10-2008, 02:48 PM	#16
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 61 Posts: 10,401	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? Another bio: Titans Radio: Titans Defensive Coordinator Jim Schwartz Interesting that he spent time as a scout. And, obviously, he is not an individual who will satisfy the Rooney Rule. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

01-10-2008, 02:55 PM	#20
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? I'm seriously wondering if the text of the Rooney Rule says "minority" or "African-American" or what? I can't find any actual text and all the articles I've read use the two terms interchangably as if they meant exactly the same thing. A little help? __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

01-10-2008, 02:57 PM	#21
lespaul Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: VA. Age: 59 Posts: 69	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? I can't find anything either except what I already know about the rule which isn't too much.

01-10-2008, 03:00 PM	#22
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 45 Posts: 4,628	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? The Rooney Rule doesn't apply to assistant coaches promoted to being Head Coach, which in this case, would apply to Gregg Williams... __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

01-10-2008, 03:02 PM	#24
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 45 Posts: 4,628	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? That's what I get for quickly browsing what I was reading instead of reading it fully... __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

01-10-2008, 03:11 PM	#27
bertoskins2 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Age: 51 Posts: 260	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? titans defense this year is overrated and solely dependent on Hynesworths play, without him the titans defense is not better the GW's defense. yes they came from the same titans great superbowl run defense, but GW is more familiar here, with player's support and has learned from Gibb's and from his previous mistake as a HC of the Bills. Im still for GW. please Mr. snyder.

01-10-2008, 03:13 PM	#28
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 53 Posts: 2,665	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? Perhaps Gibbs is not endorsing GW as head coach. Knowing how much Danny respects Gibbs you would have to think that Gibbs and Dan have discussed the possibility of GW as head coach behind closed doors. Although Gibbs would not say anything publicly he would surely give Dan his true feelings about GW behind closed doors. Maybe Gibbs thinks GW is just a DC and not the best choice as HC. I firmly believe that if Gibbs 100% endorced GW as his successor that he would be the lead candidate without question. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

01-10-2008, 03:17 PM	#29
MonkFan4Life The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 47 Posts: 1,851	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? I think this is all smoke and mirrors. They know it's going to be Gregg and all the coaches know it's going to be Gregg, but they aren't letting anyone on. I'm hoping that Joe discussed this with Dan during that conversation that lasted to 2 in the morning. I'm hoping that Joe and Dan talked to the coaches and let them know what was going to happen, or maybe no one knows but Gregg, Joe, and Dan. That they know Gregg is getting it but are pretty much saying to the media, "I'm not gonna tell, your feet smell, you ask me again and you can go to hell" I'm hoping that's the way it's going to go. That Gregg will be named coach, but not until everyone proclaims that The Danny is going to sign whatever coach they want to say he will. Maybe Dan learned from Joe. Let's hope for our sakes. __________________ Catch me on YouTube ! http://www.youtube.com/user/DowntimeRB?feature=mhw5 The "punishment" by the league : "It's like getting a ticket for going too fast on a road a week ago and they changed the speed limit today"

01-10-2008, 03:18 PM	#30
Cooley1 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 105	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? I think they are just trying to line up a few candidates while playing the PR game with our heads, like..........lets make them wait and get more and more intrigued about Greg for a week or so, then we will hit um with the goods...................."And your next coach for the Washington Redskins, Greg Williams"! – hopeful / wishful thinking I presume. Then we will all be so excited about our team and continue to waste our hard earned dollars on more Redskins Merchandise and ticket increases..

May the Schwartz be with you?

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