Is Gibbs Getting His Mojo Back?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think we're seeing what this offense is truly capable of with someone at the helm who understands the full play book and isn't limited. That's nothing against Campbell, he's still learning, but right now Collins is the guy we need to roll with.

Thank you!! This explains why Campbell and the offense was not scoring many points and playing conservative. Collins knows the 700+ playbook and that makes a huge difference of what this offense can do.

[birdz4gibbs]

hopefully joe gibbs is knocking the rust off his mojo..
and yes we keep collins in there for the long haul now until preseason starts up again.
so we are rolling with collins now so i would stick with him but i hope campbell is still learning this playbook from the sidelines and in the film room.

[CooleyFanOV]

This is my first post, Ive been hanging around and I love this team and everythting it represents. Ive been sitting on this thought for awhile and I mention it with caution but this seems to be the perfect thread to bring it up. It may be a misread, but since TC has been playing, this offense looks like a different team. Which brings me to my point. Has there been an internal power struggle between Joe and Al regarding the QB'S? If there was, we would never know with internal affairs being so private under Gibbs. Now that Al has his QB in there, it seems to me that there is alot more continuity between Gibbs and the folks upstairs i.e the 12th man call last night. TC is a good QB for this system ,but mysteriously the whole offense looks better. So is it play calling? Which is a two sided coin. If it is play calling, then great lets keep it up. But then again if it is play calling, someone needs to answer for not having Cambell ready to call this offense. To sum it all up, I feel that AL has been holding back with Cambell in a kind of "told you so" way......Just some food for thought, I would like to hear others opinions on this.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by CooleyFanOV

This is my first post, Ive been hanging around and I love this team and everythting it represents. Ive been sitting on this thought for awhile and I mention it with caution but this seems to be the perfect thread to bring it up. It may be a misread, but since TC has been playing, this offense looks like a different team. Which brings me to my point. Has there been an internal power struggle between Joe and Al regarding the QB'S? If there was, we would never know with internal affairs being so private under Gibbs. Now that Al has his QB in there, it seems to me that there is alot more continuity between Gibbs and the folks upstairs i.e the 12th man call last night. TC is a good QB for this system ,but mysteriously the whole offense looks better. So is it play calling? Which is a two sided coin. If it is play calling, then great lets keep it up. But then again if it is play calling, someone needs to answer for not having Cambell ready to call this offense. To sum it all up, I feel that AL has been holding back with Cambell in a kind of "told you so" way......Just some food for thought, I would like to hear others opinions on this.

They play more conservative with Campbell a young QB learning the system and play to his strengths. Collins knows the playbook inside out and is not as physically talented as Campbell but makes it up with his knowledge and smarts. When Campbell absorbs the whole playbook, I say watch out!!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by CooleyFanOV

This is my first post, Ive been hanging around and I love this team and everythting it represents. Ive been sitting on this thought for awhile and I mention it with caution but this seems to be the perfect thread to bring it up. It may be a misread, but since TC has been playing, this offense looks like a different team. Which brings me to my point. Has there been an internal power struggle between Joe and Al regarding the QB'S? If there was, we would never know with internal affairs being so private under Gibbs. Now that Al has his QB in there, it seems to me that there is alot more continuity between Gibbs and the folks upstairs i.e the 12th man call last night. TC is a good QB for this system ,but mysteriously the whole offense looks better. So is it play calling? Which is a two sided coin. If it is play calling, then great lets keep it up. But then again if it is play calling, someone needs to answer for not having Cambell ready to call this offense. To sum it all up, I feel that AL has been holding back with Cambell in a kind of "told you so" way......Just some food for thought, I would like to hear others opinions on this.

Welcome to the board. And yes, the offense does look mysteriously better or smoother...or something. But it's working is all we know.

I think there has been some internal struggle between Gibbs and Saunders. I think it has more to do with releasing JC and less to do with their respective egos.

[Rajmahal33]

Originally Posted by CooleyFanOV

This is my first post, Ive been hanging around and I love this team and everythting it represents. Ive been sitting on this thought for awhile and I mention it with caution but this seems to be the perfect thread to bring it up. It may be a misread, but since TC has been playing, this offense looks like a different team. Which brings me to my point. Has there been an internal power struggle between Joe and Al regarding the QB'S? If there was, we would never know with internal affairs being so private under Gibbs. Now that Al has his QB in there, it seems to me that there is alot more continuity between Gibbs and the folks upstairs i.e the 12th man call last night. TC is a good QB for this system ,but mysteriously the whole offense looks better. So is it play calling? Which is a two sided coin. If it is play calling, then great lets keep it up. But then again if it is play calling, someone needs to answer for not having Cambell ready to call this offense. To sum it all up, I feel that AL has been holding back with Cambell in a kind of "told you so" way......Just some food for thought, I would like to hear others opinions on this.

Bienvenidos, I think it's a fair point to bring up, but I don't agree that Saunders actively hindered Campbell's progress as if to prove a point or get his way. I think it was more of a side effect of Campbell's inexperience, lack of chemistry with the WR's (due to ongoing injuries), and the teams we played in the beginning of the season as opposed to recently. Also don't underestimate the power of Taylor's memory.

[CooleyFanOV]

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[4mrusmc]

I liked the fire in Gibbs' eyes last night. The play calling was spot on the first half and adequate in the second half. This team is on the verge of something special this season, but it still has some unfinished buisness to attend to this Sunday. THIS TEAM NEEDS OUR SUPPORT AT FEDEX LIKE NO TEAM HAS YET TO SEE!!! So, 12th man where you at?!? Is this fun or what? Good job Skins, why to make us proud!

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by 4mrusmc

I liked the fire in Gibbs' eyes last night. The play calling was spot on the first half and adequate in the second half. This team is on the verge of something special this season, but it still has some unfinished buisness to attend to this Sunday. THIS TEAM NEEDS OUR SUPPORT AT FEDEX LIKE NO TEAM HAS YET TO SEE!!! So, 12th man where you at?!? Is this fun or what? Good job Skins, why to make us proud!

Great point about the "fuego" in Gibbs' eyes. He has lacked that during his second stint, but had it (a lot of it) in his first stint. Aging is an insufficient reason for the lack of fire.

Just look at one of the Torresa videos (82 SB run) from the Warpath film room and you can see what I mean about the look in his eye.

Recently, there have been occasions where you can see glimpses of that - Minnesota game, when Landry picked up the dumb 15yarder on the Burress hit, etc.

[4mrusmc]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

Great point about the "fuego" in Gibbs' eyes. He has lacked that during his second stint, but had it (a lot of it) in his first stint. Aging is an insufficient reason for the lack of fire.

Just look at one of the Torresa videos (82 SB run) from the Warpath film room and you can see what I mean about the look in his eye.

Recently, there have been occasions where you can see glimpses of that - Minnesota game, when Landry picked up the dumb 15yarder on the Burress hit, etc.

Yeah buddy, I remember those days when he had that profesional swagger on the sidelines. We all saw it again last Sunday. Let's hope this team can channel that "swagger" on the field for some more games in January.

[CooleyFanOV]

Yeah...#21 has had a profound effect on all of us....I can only imagine the effect he's had on his teammates and coaches....Its no doubt they are all playing inspired football!

The difference between the two offenses is so stark that its hard for me believe that theres not more to it, then just injuries,inexperience and QB grooming. We are better across the board on offense not just the players. The timing of the calls, the challenges, game speed and overall coaching. The whole ball of wax is improved! Maybe Gibbs plan has been to lull our opponents to sleep. LOL!!!! I dont know what it is and I guess we could sit here and make assumptions all day, whatever it is. Im thrilled!!! If Collins is even partly responsible for this turn around, we have no business even talking about Cambell until next trainning camp!!! Im a huge Cambell fan but at this point Ill take the wins over playing time for our FUTURE star.

[hagams]

I said it when Collins first came in the game, and did pretty decent. We are seeing the future of Redskins football. Jason will get there, and I don't think he's bummed that Collins is doing well right now. He just needs to be close with him, and learn.
I think this thread is really funny, because not too long ago there were several "let's get rid of Gibbs" threads going around. "Gibbs is done, We need Cowler". Gibbs is the Coach for this team, has been the Coach with this team, and will continue to be the coach for this team as long as his health lets him.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

For most of this year Joe Gibbs has been under intense scrutiny by the media and Redskins fans alike. Going into the Minnesota game, I just had the impression that Joe Gibbs was going to outcoach Ray Childress and company. Not to harp on the 12 man challenge too much, but I think that's a call we miss, say, just three months ago. To me, it's an indicator of how much the entire staff are now of like mind and are seeing and speaking the same thing.

Is that Brad Childress' twin brother?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Is that Brad Childress' twin brother?

hahaha...you know what, it hadn't dawned upon me until just yesterday when I was watching NFL Network or something, and it said Brad Childress....I was like, snap, I had the wrong guy! Who cares, the Vikes are in our rear view mirror.

[MTK]

I've never understood people saying that he's lost his fire for coaching.

He didn't need to come back and put his legacy on the line for the Redskins. He was doing quite well in NASCAR, and he has a bust in Canton. He didn't come back for a paycheck, that's for damn sure.

I believe he will sign a 2 year extension after this season and he will continue working his ass off trying to get this ship back on course.

There are 3 things that should never be questioned with Joe Gibbs. His faith, his work ethic, and his leadership abilities.